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North and South Korea exchange fire.

 
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thoreau



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: North and South Korea exchange fire. Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091110/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_naval_clash

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SEOUL, South Korea � The two Koreas briefly exchanged naval fire Tuesday along their disputed western sea border, with a North Korean ship suffering heavy damage before retreating, South Korean military officials said.

There were no South Korean casualties, the country's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement, and it was not immediately clear if there were any casualties on the North Korean side. Each side blamed the other for violating the sea border.

"It's a regrettable incident," South Korean Commodore Lee Ki-sik told reporters in Seoul. "We are sternly protesting to North Korea and urging it to prevent the recurrence of similar incidents."

North Korea's military issued a statement blaming South Korea for the clash, saying its ships crossed into North Korean territory. North Korea demanded an apology, according to a statement carried on the official Korean Central News Agency.

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak, who convened an emergency security meeting, ordered his defense minister to strengthen military readiness.

The clash � the first of its in kind in seven years � occurred as U.S. officials said President Barack Obama has decided to send a special envoy to Pyongyang for rare direct talks on the communist country's nuclear weapons program. No date has been set but it would be the first one-on-one talks since Obama took office in January. Obama is due in Seoul next week.

South Korea's Joint Chiefs of Staff said in a statement that a North Korean patrol boat crossed the disputed western sea border around 11:27 a.m. (0227 GMT), drawing warning shots from a South Korean navy vessel. The North Korean boat then opened fire and the South's ship returned fire before the North's vessel sailed back toward its waters, the statement said.

The clash occurred near the South-held island of Daecheong, about 120 nautical miles (220 kilometers) off the port city of Incheon, west of Seoul, the statement said.

The North Korean ship was seriously damaged in the skirmish, a Joint Chiefs of Staff officer said on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.

Lee, the commodore, said the shooting lasted for about two minutes and that the South Korean ship was lightly damaged.

South Korean military officials did not say whether they believed the crossing by the North Korean ship was deliberate. The two sides regularly accuse each other of straying into their respective territories.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency, however, quoted Prime Minister Chung Un-chan as telling lawmakers that the clash was not intentional. "Today's skirmish was accidental," he said, without elaborating.

The two sides have fought deadly skirmishes along the western sea border in 1999 and 2002.

No South Korean sailors were killed in 1999, but six south Korean sailors died in 2002, according to the South Korean navy. It said exact North Korean causalities remain unclear.

The two Koreas have yet to agree on their sea border more than 50 years after the end of their 1950-53 civil war, which ended in an armistice and not a permanent peace treaty. Instead, they rely on a line that the then-commander of U.N. forces, which fought for the South, drew unilaterally at the end of the conflict.

North Korea last month accused South Korean warships of broaching its territory in waters off the west coast and warned of a clash in the zone, which is a rich crab fishing area.

The latest conflict comes after North Korea has reached out to Seoul and Washington following months of tension over its nuclear and missile programs.

North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and carried out its second underground nuclear test in May. But it subsequently released South Korean and U.S. detainees, agreed to resume joint projects with South Korea and offered direct talks with Washington.

Two administration officials said Monday in Washington that Obama has decided, after months of deliberation, has decided to send a special envoy to Pyongyang for direct talks on nuclear issues.

Obama will send envoy Stephen Bosworth, although no date for his trip has been set, the officials said. The officials discussed the matter on condition of anonymity because the decision has not been publicly announced.

There were no signs of unusual tensions along the heavily fortified land border separating the two Koreas. The Joint Chiefs of Staff said that were no worrisome troop movements on the North Korean side of the land border.

At Panmunjom in the Demilitarized Zone, an Associated Press photographer said the situation was calm. A group of Chinese tourists was visiting on the North Korean side.

The area is where officers from North Korea hold meetings with their counterparts from South Korea, the United States and other members of the United Nations command.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like North Korea almost lost a boat. The story on Fox News says that the SK ship was very lightly damaged. I've read in news stories that what SK has now for ships/weapons compared to 1999 or 2002 is quite a bit more advanced. Maybe this is proof.
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fermentation



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

even back in the 1999 and 2002 clashes the technological difference between the two forces was very clear.

Next time they should do away with warning shots and start sinking them the moment they cross the line like those Norks always do.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fermentation wrote:
even back in the 1999 and 2002 clashes the technological difference between the two forces was very clear.

Next time they should do away with warning shots and start sinking them the moment they cross the line like those Norks always do.


I read somewhere that they in fact have done something like that. I think it was Fox or CNN that said the ship captains now have full responsibility to fire on the enemy, and don't have to waste precious battle time checking with people on shore. Apparently, the SK boats had to wait, wait, wait to fire back at the North in 1999 and 2002, which caused more damage than it should have.

This time, they didn't have to wait, and pretty much cleaned up.
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chris_J2



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Yeonpyeongdo Reply with quote

DPRK are deliberately provoking, to get more attention from Obama, who arrives in Seoul next week. I went to Baengnyeongdo last July, & the fast catamaran goes right past Yeonpyeong island, to / from Incheon/Baengnyeongdo. The boat I was on, may have even stopped briefly at the pier there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_Yeonpyeong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeonpyeong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Limit_Line

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/world/asia/24korea.html

Seems that Wiki have not yet updated. They're usually very fast.
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