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[youtuber]

^ Yup. There's no doubt, if I had oodles of cash, I would want to be treated for everything in America.

But since I don't, and probably never will, I will stay away. Unless Obama makes significant change, which is doubtful.

One of the nice things about Canada, is that your job is not tied to your health. We are more free to follow our dreams and do what we love.

In the US however, it is literally work or die.

[mises]

[youtuber]

Although I don't know much about Medicaid, I would suspect that the care is substandard compared to what one would receive if they had a Cadillac insurance plan.

[mises]

[Reggie]

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[smee18]

My point, Rusty, is that the logic of free market privatization, a la the American health care system, is clearly INSANE. A fully privatized, free-market driven world would be a satanic poo-hole not worth living in, which is the world steadily being brought into being by the powers that be. What really gets me is that people can't see the evidently flawed logic behind the whole sordid affair. Privatization means bloated parasitic corporations sucking as many resources out of the system as they can, in the form of profit. Its simple maths really, the more they charge, the less efficient the system is, the more money they make.

As an Australian married to an American, I can tell you the health care system in America is one of the major factors behind our intention to live in Australia rather America when we are done here in Korea. Medication bought at full cost in Australia (without medicare ... my wife is yet to be eligible) were close to half the price of the same in America. My sister in law in America pays more for health insurance than see pays for her mortage, some $1200 a month. It amazes me that people can be so scared by the specter of socialism that they will let themselves get f'ed in the ass so bad. As per my earlier post, if you're so scared of socialism, then stop using the bloody tap water!!!

[Reggie]

Moral of the story: if you're American, you had better marry and get a green card somewhere else so you won't go broke due to our crappy health care system.

Smee, any Aussie sisters??

[visitorq]

[Rusty Shackleford]

[mmstyle]

[smee18]

Rusty, yes, its an assertion ... so? Doesn't stop it from being true.

Australia (don't know this mythical land you call Aussie) doesn't need a mythical beast to fart MRIs or whatever. "Someone is paying for it" ... no sh&t Sherlock, we the people are, for the benefit of, you guessed it, we the people. And guess what, when there is no bloated, undemocratic parasite, known as a private 'corporation,' sucking all the resources (money) into the pockets of executives and shareholders its a hell of a lot cheaper. A HELL of a lot cheaper.

Visitorq, capitalism by nature of the very term suppose a society that posits as its highest good the private accumulation of wealth (capital). That's what the term in and of itself supposes. Thus, no 'capitalist' system is ever going to put a social, collective good, like public health, above profit. More competition does not drive down price. It leads to a survival of the fittest (greediest) system where larger, more powerful economic entities inevitably take over smaller ones, leading to massive oligarchies which drive the price UP, because it means more money and power for them. People like to valorise 'competition' as though it were some kinda of good, when what it usually amounts to is greedy and destructive self-interest. What about cooperation? Why don't we have a cooperative, democratic system that works to maximize benefit for all, rather than a 'competitive' system that benefits the few at the expense of the rest of us?

[Moldy Rutabaga]

For all the complaining we and I do about Korea, my health care is cheap, partly covered by my workplace, and easy to access. Drugs are preposterously cheap here, and I can go to a dentist or optometrist as easy as I can an emergency room.

I lived in the states for three years. My teeth and health deteriorated and when my wife was ill it was cheaper for her to fly home to Korea. I paid a thousand dollars a semester for mandatory foreign student health insurance that didn't cover any non-emergency health care.

When I got sick teaching in Mexico, the school had an arrangement with a local doctor. Essentially I had better access to medical care in Mexico than in America. Mexico. Saying that everyone has superior health care in the US because of their medical technology is like saying everyone has better air transportation because of their space shuttle. Not if you have no access.

[visitorq]

[visitorq]