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Olivencia
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RufusW
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| Hopefully. Push them over to one channel. It usually happens with extremists, marginalised and radicalised i.e. Fox 'news'. |
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visitorq
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RufusW
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Free Trade! Except Mexico! ...and anyone who wants good highways! ... or non-existant highways!
This clip should be shown to politics/media students to show how silly U.S. news can be. Did you see the first person they interviewed? He's from the 'Independent Drivers Association' - he thinks it's scary from a safety standpoint to allow Mexican drivers... mostly because of security... ha! |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| Like, ya! I know right? Totally. Why can't everybody in the media just like ya say the same thing right youknow. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:30 am Post subject: |
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It's not about saying the same thing - it's about reporting news. News is a compilation of facts, not opinion or conjecture. News is reportage of things that have actually happened, not what may happen because of something. Dobbs loved providing his own slant... his own view on why Mexican truck drivers driving within the U.S. was a bad thing. In reality this creates unwarranted xenophobia and racism.
He didn't report news - he reported his own bigoted views. |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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It is exactly about saying the same thing. Any dissent from a very narrow spectrum of opinion is completely unforgivable. You all are emotionally unable to handle it. The TV news channels are opinion mediums. Final. If you prefer the opinion of MSNBC, fine. But stop crying about Fox. It's bloody annoying.
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| his own view on why Mexican truck drivers driving within the U.S. was a bad thing. In reality this creates unwarranted xenophobia and racism. |
This is where I realize I'm speaking with ideologue and move on. Mexicans aren't a "race", though La Raza would like to pretend they are. Everything has to be about "racism" etc to you people. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| Any dissent from a very narrow spectrum of opinion is completely unforgivable. |
I think anti-racist is actually quite a wide spectrum.
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| The TV news channels are opinion mediums. Final. |
In America they are... in the rest of the world they're called news for a reason.
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| If you prefer the opinion of MSNBC, fine. But stop crying about Fox. It's bloody annoying. |
I prefer news, I whine about Fox representing news - they're lying... it's bad for uneducated people, they believe it and they act on it.... it's unfair to them.
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| Mexicans aren't a "race" |
Wat?
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| The term race or racial group usually refers to the categorization of humans into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of heritable characteristics. The physical features commonly seen as indicating race are salient visual traits such as skin color, cranial or facial features and hair texture. |
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mises
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| The term race or racial group usually refers to the categorization of humans into populations or groups on the basis of various sets of heritable characteristics. The physical features commonly seen as indicating race are salient visual traits such as skin color, cranial or facial features and hair texture. |
Goddamn. Ignorant Euros.
I just got back from Mexico, actually. Spent a day and a half in the DF. I saw Indians, whites and even a few blacks. All of whom were Mexicans. Because Mexico is a country. And in the country called Mexico there are people from different races. Because Mexico is a multiracial country.
But Euros will discuss Mexico only knowing Mexico from scenes of Mexican Indigenous running the Arizona desert marathon. So these ignorant people then think all Mexicans are that.
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| I think anti-racist is actually quite a wide spectrum. |
No, it isn't. It is "what we leftists don't like". That is it. Any dissent on any subject is "racist".
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| In America they are... in the rest of the world they're called news for a reason. |
What the hell do you know? How do you know? You're assuming because you've had a boogieman inserted into your brain. Do you speak hundreds of languages? Have you done a careful study of "the rest of the world"? God damn dude. You're embarrassing yourself. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
Free Trade! Except Mexico! ...and anyone who wants good highways! ... or non-existant highways!
This clip should be shown to politics/media students to show how silly U.S. news can be. Did you see the first person they interviewed? He's from the 'Independent Drivers Association' - he thinks it's scary from a safety standpoint to allow Mexican drivers... mostly because of security... ha! |
I know you think you're being funny, like those smug liberal comedy shows you watch, but you really don't pull it off at all. Just letting you know. |
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mises
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visitorq
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
It's not about saying the same thing - it's about reporting news. News is a compilation of facts, not opinion or conjecture. News is reportage of things that have actually happened, not what may happen because of something. Dobbs loved providing his own slant... his own view on why Mexican truck drivers driving within the U.S. was a bad thing. In reality this creates unwarranted xenophobia and racism.
He didn't report news - he reported his own bigoted views. |
You're not even American. Obviously you care nothing about American sovereignty (or Canadian, or Mexican for that matter). Your "opinion" is utterly worthless. |
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RufusW
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: |
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You think I'm ignorant for pointing out Dobbs' xenophobia and, yes, racism. He's not referring to white Mexicans or Indian Mexicans... he is quite patently referring to Mexican looking Mexicans. He isn't interested in protecting American trade - he's interested in keeping out Mexican drivers because of 'safety issues'... they may be driving a bomb into the middle of the country!
Can't you read the subtext? When was the last Mexican terrorist attack?
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| I think anti-racist is actually quite a wide spectrum. |
No, it isn't. |
Wait, you think most people are racist?
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RufusW
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| visitorq wrote: |
| I know you think you're being funny, like those smug liberal comedy shows you watch, but you really don't pull it off at all. Just letting you know. |
I know you like being a paranoid/delusional Conservative... you pull it off very well.
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| You're not even American. Obviously you care nothing about American sovereignty (or Canadian, or Mexican for that matter). Your "opinion" is utterly worthless. |
Ha! Good point... Someone's view who isn't involved is worthless..... oh dear. |
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visitorq
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| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| RufusW wrote: |
You think I'm ignorant for pointing out Dobbs' xenophobia and, yes, racism. He's not referring to white Mexicans or Indian Mexicans... he is quite patently referring to Mexican looking Mexicans. He isn't interested in protecting American trade - he's interested in keeping out Mexican drivers because of 'safety issues'... they may be driving a bomb into the middle of the country!
Can't you read the subtext? When was the last Mexican terrorist attack? |
That's not the issue. The issue is sovereignty. Lou Dobbs does a story on the global elite destroying our borders without our knowing or authorization, and he's a "racist xenophobe"? What will you think of next?  |
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