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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul
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6 years (just got back in the UK)
made me glad that I came from such an awesome country as the UK. most posters on this board knock it (probably because they just left) but i can thank my lucky stars i grew up in the UK and not Korea. I never saw myself as patriotic or nationalist (i was very anti-nationalist in my youth) but thats what living in Korea did for me.
Obviously i improved financially and set clear career goals for myself from the experience, but in terms of personality i definitely became more nationalist, less tolerant of people bashing the UK, less accepting of other cultures right to complain about stuff. wierd. |
Have fun dodging the knife wielding chavs and avoiding the used syringes on the pavement.
THe UK is a hole. IF there is one place that has went down the toilet it's that one. You want to know what the people of the UK are like? Plain and simple it's like the people you see on the "Jeremy Kyle show"
Obesity, poverty - It's just disgusting.
The UK is now a third world country in my view. Look at the way it's been destroyed by the financial crisis.
So I won't be paying too much attention to you or your queen. |
Jeremy Kyle is one person and his show caters toa tiny minority.
Obesity - USA is ahead, Australia and new zealand are just about to overtake. As one poster said, the UK is losing the fat and slipping down the table. Fact.
Besides the UK has the lowest mortality rate from Obesity from all the 7 English speaking countries.
So where do YOU come from?
Poverty - The uk is the 6th richest country in the world and number 10 for annual income.
'Knife wielding chavs' and 'used syringes'. Unless you are from Canada or Ireland you cannot comment on the crime.
So big shot, slamming the home I and many others love and respect, where are you from? The Vatican? |
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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| My guess is Canadian. You guys have a real beef with the Brits. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:30 am Post subject: |
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^ we do?  |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| I got the idea that Asian men suck for the most part, and the girls are ok. |
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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:07 am Post subject: |
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I always got the biggest negative vibe from the cannucks, never yanks. Maybe im wrong? |
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earthbound14
Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| endo wrote: |
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I always got the biggest negative vibe from the cannucks, never yanks. Maybe im wrong? |
I bet it was the the tuque jokes you made... |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| mongolian spot wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
| ^ we do? |
I always got the biggest negative vibe from the cannucks, never yanks. Maybe im wrong? |
wrong! |
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Palladium
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| It's made me alot more solitary and appreciative being able to shut the door and forget I'm in Korea. It's also made me very frugal these last several years. I save most of my money and have bought lots of precious metals. I want to stay 1-2 more years and go home, get a few acres and see what happens. |
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Jeonmunka
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Things like different mannerisms etc aren't going to change you as a person.
I think you adapt to a new environment though, and basically as soon as you step off the plane.
So, back in the west it will be you again - the same as how you left it.
What will change you however, is whether you take kids and a wife back to the west with you, and/or/if you take back 400.000+ dollars and buy property. Then those will bring changes. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: not where I'm from |
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| mongolian spot wrote: |
| creeper1 wrote: |
| spyro25 wrote: |
6 years (just got back in the UK)
made me glad that I came from such an awesome country as the UK. most posters on this board knock it (probably because they just left) but i can thank my lucky stars i grew up in the UK and not Korea. I never saw myself as patriotic or nationalist (i was very anti-nationalist in my youth) but thats what living in Korea did for me.
Obviously i improved financially and set clear career goals for myself from the experience, but in terms of personality i definitely became more nationalist, less tolerant of people bashing the UK, less accepting of other cultures right to complain about stuff. wierd. |
Have fun dodging the knife wielding chavs and avoiding the used syringes on the pavement.
THe UK is a hole. IF there is one place that has went down the toilet it's that one. You want to know what the people of the UK are like? Plain and simple it's like the people you see on the "Jeremy Kyle show"
Obesity, poverty - It's just disgusting.
The UK is now a third world country in my view. Look at the way it's been destroyed by the financial crisis.
So I won't be paying too much attention to you or your queen. |
Jeremy Kyle is one person and his show caters toa tiny minority.
Obesity - USA is ahead, Australia and new zealand are just about to overtake. As one poster said, the UK is losing the fat and slipping down the table. Fact.
Besides the UK has the lowest mortality rate from Obesity from all the 7 English speaking countries.
So where do YOU come from?
Poverty - The uk is the 6th richest country in the world and number 10 for annual income.
'Knife wielding chavs' and 'used syringes'. Unless you are from Canada or Ireland you cannot comment on the crime.
So big shot, slamming the home I and many others love and respect, where are you from? The Vatican? |
Where I am from does not matter. It's where I live now. After all we are ESL teachers and have some control over where we live. There is no way that the UK is a desirable place to live.
I live now in Korea. Touch wood I haven't experienced any crime. Look at the UK. People being beaten senseless is regulary seen on CCTV. Knifings ,shootings, no go areas. There are no "no go areas" in Korea. I feel safe walking home at 2am. I can't say the same thing for the UK.
My comment about the UK now being a third world country is valid. Look at this article which clearly states that life expectancy is better in INDIA than poor areas of the UK. 
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/aug/29who.htm
Lastly the economy. You simply cannot get a job in a country that is destined for the toilet. The UK is on the slope and will slide down in a one way direction. I live in Asia. Asia is the future. This is where the creditor nations are. I believe Korea will overtake the UK in the size of their economy soon. What does the UK sell exactly? North sea oil which is fast running out? 
Here is an interesting article on the UK. Read and weep.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/209953?from=rss |
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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: not where I'm from |
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| mongolian spot wrote: |
| creeper1 wrote: |
| spyro25 wrote: |
6 years (just got back in the UK)
made me glad that I came from such an awesome country as the UK. most posters on this board knock it (probably because they just left) but i can thank my lucky stars i grew up in the UK and not Korea. I never saw myself as patriotic or nationalist (i was very anti-nationalist in my youth) but thats what living in Korea did for me.
Obviously i improved financially and set clear career goals for myself from the experience, but in terms of personality i definitely became more nationalist, less tolerant of people bashing the UK, less accepting of other cultures right to complain about stuff. wierd. |
Have fun dodging the knife wielding chavs and avoiding the used syringes on the pavement.
THe UK is a hole. IF there is one place that has went down the toilet it's that one. You want to know what the people of the UK are like? Plain and simple it's like the people you see on the "Jeremy Kyle show"
Obesity, poverty - It's just disgusting.
The UK is now a third world country in my view. Look at the way it's been destroyed by the financial crisis.
So I won't be paying too much attention to you or your queen. |
Jeremy Kyle is one person and his show caters toa tiny minority.
Obesity - USA is ahead, Australia and new zealand are just about to overtake. As one poster said, the UK is losing the fat and slipping down the table. Fact.
Besides the UK has the lowest mortality rate from Obesity from all the 7 English speaking countries.
So where do YOU come from?
Poverty - The uk is the 6th richest country in the world and number 10 for annual income.
'Knife wielding chavs' and 'used syringes'. Unless you are from Canada or Ireland you cannot comment on the crime.
So big shot, slamming the home I and many others love and respect, where are you from? The Vatican? |
Where I am from does not matter. It's where I live now. After all we are ESL teachers and have some control over where we live. There is no way that the UK is a desirable place to live.
I live now in Korea. Touch wood I haven't experienced any crime. Look at the UK. People being beaten senseless is regulary seen on CCTV. Knifings ,shootings, no go areas. There are no "no go areas" in Korea. I feel safe walking home at 2am. I can't say the same thing for the UK.
My comment about the UK now being a third world country is valid. Look at this article which clearly states that life expectancy is better in INDIA than poor areas of the UK.
http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/aug/29who.htm
Lastly the economy. You simply cannot get a job in a country that is destined for the toilet. The UK is on the slope and will slide down in a one way direction. I live in Asia. Asia is the future. This is where the creditor nations are. I believe Korea will overtake the UK in the size of their economy soon. What does the UK sell exactly? North sea oil which is fast running out?
Here is an interesting article on the UK. Read and weep.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/209953?from=rss |
My favorite comment is about Asia being the future and thats why you live here. I suppose teaching ESL makes you one of the leading the players in this 'future' economy.
Who wants to live in the UK? Ask a few British immigration officials.
Korea is Paradise. Korean immigration are struggling to stop the incomers.
Come to Korea the land of milk and honey.
Joke. |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: not where I'm from |
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| mongolian spot wrote: |
Who wants to live in the UK? Ask a few British immigration officials.
Korea is Paradise. Korean immigration are struggling to stop the incomers.
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I stress that it's not my opinion, but I've met some other British people living happily in Korea (and elsewhere in East Asia where the immigration situation is similar to Korea) whose response to the above would be,
"Yes, exactly! That's why I'm happy here and don't wish to go back to the UK."
Trying to get back in the general direction of the original topic of the thread, I noticed someone above saying that they never used to feel particularly nationalistic about their own country, but became that way after being in Korea. In my experience, that often seems to be a "living abroad for the first time" kind of reaction, rather than something Korea-specific.
I was like that myself when I first lived abroad, in Germany. When I arrived there, I was really critical of my own country, the UK, but I later changed and became incredibly sensitive to any criticism of it. To be honest, being at a fairly immature age then of not much past 20 played a big role too.
But I've seen the same pattern in lots of newbies (and by that I mean people living overseas in a different culture for the first time) that I've seen arrive in Korea, and in Japan, where I was before. They arrive with a fairly critical attitude towards their home country, but later end up jumping to defend things they'd previously have knocked about their homeland.
Getting old now and well into my 2nd decade of living overseas, I really have become pretty neutral about my home country. I enjoy going back to visit, but I neither feel the need to criticise it or defend it any more. |
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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: not where I'm from |
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| mongolian spot wrote: |
Who wants to live in the UK? Ask a few British immigration officials.
Korea is Paradise. Korean immigration are struggling to stop the incomers.
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I stress that it's not my opinion, but I've met some other British people living happily in Korea (and elsewhere in East Asia where the immigration situation is similar to Korea) whose response to the above would be,
"Yes, exactly! That's why I'm happy here and don't wish to go back to the UK."
Trying to get back in the general direction of the original topic of the thread, I noticed someone above saying that they never used to feel particularly nationalistic about their own country, but became that way after being in Korea. In my experience, that often seems to be a "living abroad for the first time" kind of reaction, rather than something Korea-specific.
I was like that myself when I first lived abroad, in Germany. When I arrived there, I was really critical of my own country, the UK, but I later changed and became incredibly sensitive to any criticism of it. To be honest, being at a fairly immature age then of not much past 20 played a big role too.
But I've seen the same pattern in lots of newbies (and by that I mean people living overseas in a different culture for the first time) that I've seen arrive in Korea, and in Japan, where I was before. They arrive with a fairly critical attitude towards their home country, but later end up jumping to defend things they'd previously have knocked about their homeland.
Getting old now and well into my 2nd decade of living overseas, I really have become pretty neutral about my home country. I enjoy going back to visit, but I neither feel the need to criticise it or defend it any more. |
Im no young kid.
I love my country for its history and personality. I just feel the criticism is often born by those who could not have a comfortable life in the west. Working a shit job in the UK is a shit life but the average salary ranks among the highest in the world so the majority have a comfortable life, despite the haters.
I just feel the bitterness in these attacks on 'back home'. I just find it strange having esl teachers think they can criticise a working, sophisticated, and advanced country like the UK.
I would NEVER criticise the UK to Koreans just as the majority here would not criticise Korea. Have some self respect for your ancestors. Mine gave their life so that i can have my British passport and a true equal and democratic place to call home. |
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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| and most Koreans have respect for the UK, this makes me happy. But hey, they never saw jeremy kyle |
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b-class rambler
Joined: 25 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: not where I'm from |
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I just feel the bitterness in these attacks on 'back home'. I just find it strange having esl teachers think they can criticise a working, sophisticated, and advanced country like the UK.
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I don't actually have much time for immature rants against the UK either. But I don't really have time for people making immature rants against anywhere else for that matter. I used to get more riled by that kind of thing, but now I couldn't care less. To me, it does seem to be age that has made that difference, more than any other factor.
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I would NEVER criticise the UK to Koreans....
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Personally, if Koreans ask me about the UK, I just try to give them an honest answer as best I can. As it's often people who have decided to visit there anyway, I tend to slightly lean more towards the positive. And in my case, honesty is not a euphemism for childishly slagging the place off. Although if someone has the idea of a land of gentlemen and afternoon tea, I think it'd be better to put them right 
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| and most Koreans have respect for the UK |
I've found the same, and I found most Japanese did too. I've actually found a lot of Koreans and Japanese are not very impressed by people who diss their own country, seemingly to gain favour in the one they're now living in. I've found it's considered perfectly acceptable (and even expected ) to be proud of your own country, as long as that doesn't spill over into being disrespectful of theirs. |
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