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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Government Encouraging More Children |
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| I have no idea why you are sneering at this encouragement to have children, most governments have done this at one time and I personally think we should have more of it in Europe. |
It can really backfire too, though. Nicolae Ceaucescu encouraged Romanian women to have litters of children and look what happened. |
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justagirl
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Dude, I'm not "sneering" at the encouragement of having more children. I am rolling my eyes. Just look at the smiley. Here. I give you another rolling eye smiley. 
I re-state my point--look at this country! They are out of room for people. It is so overcrowded. The world as a whole does not need a population increase! I'd say the same about any country with as many people packed into a country the size of Korea. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 4:57 am Post subject: |
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justagirl, you're just not getting the economic bit of it. in order for Korea to maintain its economic level (and hopefully improve it), the birth rate needs to be around 2 kids/couple. The gov't simply doesn't want the population to shrink. If it encourages koreans to have 3 or 4 kids, it figures some people will in fact do so, while many will couples will continue to have 1 or no kids.
yes, 30 applicants for 3 jobs, lots of unemployed youth now but that is because the korean economy isn't doing that great right now. Once things rebound, there won't be quite as big a problem. Unemployment in Korea has historically been very very low. Contractors and factory owners also want the govt to make it easier for foreigners (generally from south asia) to work here since koreans these days don't want to do hard labor. Lastly, Korea feels its biggest strength is in its citizens; fewer of them means a weaker country, economically speaking.
ask koreans from overseas to come back home? yeah ok . There's a reason they left in the first place. |
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justagirl
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Actually, I can understand the economic part of it all. I can see why there is a concern. However, what I don't understand is the lack of environmental concern. I suppose the whole idea of over-population and natural environments is a whole other topic, though. Lately I've become more concerned about our future and what will be left for future generations. It's no wonder we have diseases like "mad cow" when we feed vegetarian animals ground up parts of sheep, pigs and other cows. I just wonder if we'll ever learn how to control ourselves and live more in harmony with our world. Geez. I'm starting to sound like a tree-hugger. There, rolley-eye smiley aimed at myself.
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HardyandTiny
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Basically, there are too many people depending on Seoul. if you can somehow move 10% of Seoul's population to other areas in Korea then the birth rate will increase. |
I don't believe this theory is sound given that Seoul's population has dropped 7% in the last ten years, but the birth rate has contracted by a quarter since then. |
It does matter how it is done. And 600 million won homes in Ilsan is not the way to do it.
The good thing is that the high speed train is being built.
If the Korean government was to take some control over residential develop and move away from the idea of apartment buildings then they would have a very good chance of increasing the birth rate. They should take a few large swaths of land between Seoul and Daegu and build massive amounts of simple single level, three bedroom homes that have a backyard and a frontyard and cost about 90 million won to buy. One spouse stays home and one takes high speed transit to work in Daegu or Seoul.
You give creatures space and they'll tend to stay together longer and produce more children.
It would also help if you brought in some foreigners and allowed them to create a life in those residential areas.
Fish in a pond. |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| You would have no green space in this country if you encourage Koreans to accumulate land. There's a distinct lack of it now. |
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HardyandTiny
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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I think there's enough space. We just need to use it wisely.
I've driven around England a bit. The population is close to 50 million. It's not perfect and it's not very big but it's relatively well done. |
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HardyandTiny
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:32 am Post subject: Re: Korean Government Encouraging More Children |
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| justagirl wrote: |
I heard that the government wants Korean couples to have 3 or more children. If you have 3 kids, you get tax breaks, the child gets to go to kindergarten at the gov.'s expense and a few other incentives as well.
Why? Because they are worried about the declining birth rate in Korea. They really think it's a serious problem and that they should pop out more babies.
Does anyone else think this is insane? Anyone else think that it'd be nice to have a few less people in Korea, or is it truly only the foreigners that realize this? |
haha
the biggest kicker about this thing is I have justagirl telling me that she heard something.
haha
someting about it made me crazy
something
it's baseless, no reference, no facts...something
"if you have 3 kids you get tax breaks"..haha..that's 
God
funniest thing I've seen in a long time.
I love it! |
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