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Did Obama snub Korea?
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Mithrae



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Did Obama snub Korea? Reply with quote

Seems that Obama was less than eager to rub shoulders with the Korean masses. Had he been informed about Korea's 'no blacks need apply' hiring policies? One wonders. Anyway, Koreans seem a bit put out.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/116_55820.html
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hellofaniceguy



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Did Obama snub Korea? Reply with quote

Mithrae wrote:
Seems that Obama was less than eager to rub shoulders with the Korean masses. Had he been informed about Korea's 'no blacks need apply' hiring policies? One wonders. Anyway, Koreans seem a bit put out.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/116_55820.html


Who really knows?
Maybe he was tired?
Korea was the last trip and I like to think it was for a reason...snub. I mean, he meet with the Japanese before the koreans and had to fly right over korea to get to China!
He did ham it up with the korean president...could be for show.....
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was exhaustion- he has been travelling almost non-stop for about a week before landing here and he was very tired during his trip.
All the major heads of the agencies on Yongsan met up with him for a luncheon and he was visibly exhausted. When he spoke, he did say he was sorry for the fatigue because he was ushered from one place to another with little time to settle down.
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Joe666



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
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Who really knows?
Maybe he was tired?
Korea was the last trip and I like to think it was for a reason...snub. I mean, he meet with the Japanese before the koreans and had to fly right over korea to get to China!
He did ham it up with the korean president...could be for show.....


Maybe he is well informed on the "skinny" about said country. Korea was last on his hit list. Ya, he was just tired, face saved!!!
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redaxe



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he was just tired from 2MB's impromptu Taekwondo lesson:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/115_55832.html
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Bailsibub



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non-stop travel, exhaustion, ushered from one place to another, an impromptu Taekwando lesson... sounds like he had the same experience every E2 has on their first day here. He11, he even pulled a runner!
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Hyeon Een



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In preparation for his trip to Korea Obama spent the last 2 months reading posts on Dave's. After reading all the horrific stories of malicious abuse that has been heaped on the poor American ESL teachers and their Canadian cousins at the hands of their Korean overlords he did, indeed, decide to snub Korea.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans are a little hypersensitive and are super-easy to offend...but the truth of the matter is..

mc_jc wrote:
It was exhaustion- he has been travelling almost non-stop for about a week before landing here and he was very tired during his trip.
All the major heads of the agencies on Yongsan met up with him for a luncheon and he was visibly exhausted. When he spoke, he did say he was sorry for the fatigue because he was ushered from one place to another with little time to settle down.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the Korea Times, remember. We're lucky the article didn't suggest that he was only here to buy drugs and corrupt the local women, and that he left early because he refused an AIDS test. Or perhaps the KT was hoping for a sound bite that they could print, such as "kimchi is spicy."
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The Gipkik



Joined: 30 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Economics. Korea just isn't as economically important to the US as Japan and China. Totally fair to put Korea last--at least he dropped by.
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steveinincheon



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it weren't for little Kimmie pulling a hissy fit for losing the hairstyles of Elvis competition for the 3rd year running, Obama wouldn't have stopped by at all. The FTA is on no one's agenda back in the States and Korea's commitment to Afghanistan will be a drop in the bucket in the scheme of things. People here should thank their neighbors to the North that he even dropped by at all. Still, remember how tired you are your first day after a TransPacific flight. Then imagine that you fly to Japan have hours of speeches and meetings with dignitaries, fly to Singapore repeat, fly to China repeat x2, and then fly to Korea and repeat again. The guy is obviously sleep deprived, probably frazzled from meetings that have resulted in nothing, and then probably told over and over again that the kimchi will be too spicy for him. And then the K-s are grumbling because he didn't go out in public to experience the pushy ajummas and spitting ajeossis first hand.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The usual little man of asia complex.
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the part that is irking many officials onbase right now, including me- Korea is crying about the US ratifying the KORUS FTA while having to commit to the war in Afghanistan.
Right now, all are contributing- NATO, France, etc.
What makes Korea any different.
In order for an incentive to be given, a sacrifice has to be made~ In this case, in order for Korea to enjoy the benefits of an FTA (that balances out to be in Korea's favor), they have to make a contribution to the war effort like everyone else.

Welcome to the world of politics

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The usual little man of asia complex.

No so much "little man" complex, but more like "victims'" complex.
Korea[ns] always feel they are the victim of some type of injustice. So they have to show the world that they are in fact a worthy nation of international attention. If they don't get it, they blame it on a conspiracy against them and cry victim.
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moped



Joined: 14 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Did Obama snub Korea? Reply with quote

Mithrae wrote:
Seems that Obama was less than eager to rub shoulders with the Korean masses. Had he been informed about Korea's 'no blacks need apply' hiring policies? One wonders. Anyway, Koreans seem a bit put out.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/116_55820.html

They should consider themselves blessed that he even decided to visit the country. Particularly considering how completely racist Korea is in its hiring policies for English teachers.
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Samurai Blur



Joined: 20 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, I really did get the feeling that the article is attacking him in the beginning. The author seems to try and balance it out in the end, but when it comes down to it I have to ask, why is this even an article? Really what does it matter? So far as I can tell, he didn't miss a meeting with anyone important. He didn't insult anyone or publicly state that Korea is boring or anything like that. He was probably just tired. Do these 'journalists' have nothing better to write about?
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