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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject:

Instead of Ireland imagine if it had been South Korea on the opposite end of that hand ball. I couldn't even to begin to imagine the public outrage.

misher

Joined: 14 Oct 2008

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject:

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This, however, I disagree with. The USA hardly dominates all the global sports. Cricket? Rugby? The US do seem to be catching up though. As football grows in popularity there they will continue to do so

I consider sports global if there are numerous countries from all corners of the globe that somewhat take the game seriously. I will admit that rugby could fall into that category. Cricket however, is no more a global sport than ping pong if you want to look at the number of people that are into it. If India and Pakistan were not a part of it, Cricket would just be the UK, Australia, S Africa and some Caribbean islands. All former colonies. It is still a fair number of countries but no more than a sport like Ice hockey which for me is hardly "global" at all.

rusty1983

Joined: 30 Jan 2007

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject:

misher wrote:

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On the contrary, Cricket is comfortably the second most popular sport in the world, with between 2 and 3 billion fans, if you do want to look at the numbers involved. Granted, India does probably account for most of them, but it definitely spans the globe. To be fair, I dont quite see why it's so popular but there you go.

JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:

rusty1983 wrote:

Regarding the England and USA team sheets I think youre missing the point. England do have some immensely talented footballers but there has been a culture of them being fannies when it comes down to it. On paper, yeah, theyre miles better. But I wouldnt bet against USA beating us when it came down to it. Hopefully Capello can change the culture somewhat otherwise all the money and hype in the world isnt gonna get us past the quarter finals.

No, your expectation for England is higher. You think England should get past the quarters and you expect them to get to the quarters. The USA would need a very favorable draw to make the quarters. USA could beat England in a one off game but I don't think they would be favorites in the bookies.

MISHER said..

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Costa Rica and Honduras are not bad teams but it is guaranteed that they will have a group of death (it happens every WC) and they will be dispatched. These teams can stand with a lot of 3rd rate (and maybe even some 2nd rate) European teams. So can Australia, SK and Japan. The gap isn't as big anymore.

Where is your evidence for this? What talented Costa Rican and Honduran players are playing in top european leagues?

Murakano

Joined: 10 Sep 2009

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject:

JMO wrote:

rusty1983 wrote:

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Where is your evidence for this? What talented Costa Rican and Honduran players are playing in top european leagues?

Wilson Palacios (Spurs) and Maynor Figueroa, Hendry Thomas (Wigan) are very decent players in the EPL (though you might not say that after Wigans demolition yesterday Laughing

which was a bit of a shocking scoreline). Palacios cost Spurs �14m.

Julio C�sar de Le�n ,Edgar �lvarez are good players who holds their own in Serie A in Italy....David Suazo (Inter) too though he hasn't been getting as much game time because of Inter's strength in forwards.

Honduras seem a little underrated and might provide a few surprises.

Not to clued up on Costa Rican players (not since Paulo Wanchope that is)

JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject:

Murakano wrote:

JMO wrote:

rusty1983 wrote:

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Where is your evidence for this? What talented Costa Rican and Honduran players are playing in top european leagues?

Wilson Palacios (Spurs) and Maynor Figueroa, Hendry Thomas (Wigan) are very decent players in the EPL (though you might not say that after Wigans demolition yesterday Laughing

I just looked at their squad. they have a total of 6 players playing in big 3 leagues. Not a lot of quality.

Murakano

Joined: 10 Sep 2009

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:

JMO wrote:

Murakano wrote:

JMO wrote:

rusty1983 wrote:

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Where is your evidence for this? What talented Costa Rican and Honduran players are playing in top european leagues?

Wilson Palacios (Spurs) and Maynor Figueroa, Hendry Thomas (Wigan) are very decent players in the EPL (though you might not say that after Wigans demolition yesterday Laughing

I just looked at their squad. they have a total of 6 players playing in big 3 leagues. Not a lot of quality.

can't say the USA is much better? How many Americans are in the top leagues? You can't count Bocanera or Bradley as the French and German leagues aren't the "big 3" as you say. Neither are the Norweigan, Danish or Mexican leagues.

There are a small number of American players in the Premier League but the majority of them are bench players ie: Guzan, Hahnemann, Johnson, Altidore, Spector, Onyewu all warm the bench or sit in the stands. Howard is the only nailed on regular for his club. I wouldn't say they are quality players either....I don't think you guys have a player that is better quality than Palacios (yet).

Honduras qualifying is a massive achievement anyway, whether they do nothing in the tournament or not. They are a tiny country and to have as many players as the Americans in the top leagues is testament to that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men%27s_national_soccer_team

JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:17 am Post subject:

Murakano wrote:

I agree and btw I'm not american. America has more talent than Honduras but not by much.

If south american and north america was combined in qualifying, then maybe Mexico would get through from the north and thats about it.

Murakano

Joined: 10 Sep 2009

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:08 am Post subject:

Cleaners in Ireland have decided their Henry vacuum cleaners really suck - after Thierry Henry's handball ended the nation's World Cup dream. Angry workers can't bear to look at the smiley-faced machines. Some have painted out the word "Henry" while others have daubed over its cheerful face. A worker at an Irish government building in Dublin said last night: "Several cleaners say they're unhappy working with vacuum cleaners with the cheat's name written on them. "It's bizarre because the machines have nothing whatsoever to do with Thierry Henry. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2741496/Irish-snub-Henry-vacuum-cleaners.html#ixzz0XfwmmrR2

the ireland

Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:09 am Post subject:

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

the ireland wrote:

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

Sausolito wrote:

lol dry your eyes ireland, roy keane (as much as I hate that cretin) makes all you moaners look silly with his interview yesterday.

Without this Keane handball against Ireland they might have never have been able to play France

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9fx4ipF4Q

btw-what's the penalty for!!!??

that was never a penalty however, this is where your lack of football knowledge lets you down, we went on to beat georgia 2-1 in that game, even if you were to dissallow the penatly we would have gotten the draw and finished 2 points ahead of 3rd place, or even if you want to go a far as saying we lost 1-0 we would have still finished 1 point ahead of 3rd place.

And these points (2 wins = 6 points) we got against georgia were erased from our eventual total because the scotland group had 1 less team in it that all the rest, so all the results against the teams that finished last in the group stages are erased from the second place team, and we finished ahead of norway as we had 12 points (18 total minus 6 points from georgia games) and they only finished on 10 points

OK.

My point was really about Keane's blatant use of his arms.

The penalty is mystifying all the same.

The georgian penalty decision was crazy, we all admitted it when it happened. but there is a big difference for being awarded a penalty when you did not cheat to get it than actually cheating to gain something

halfmanhalfbiscuit

Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject:

Aye, decisions like that are out of one's hands, as it were. Using the arms/ forearms to trap the ball is an obnoxious habit and the more it's done the more players try to get away with it. What would they have us believe-they're using their manbreasts? I dunno. I think FIFA is so ludicrous in purporting to be fair and open. You may as well be taking boxing to task.

the ireland

Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject:

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

You may as well be taking boxing to task.

football decisions and fifa in general are made to look like angels in comparison to boxing associations. My dad is an amateur boxing coach and has seen his fighters knock their opponents down and beat the to a bloody pulp (literally) yet still lose the fight. and this is in the amateur game, what are these young people to think about the pros where money is paid and millions are gambled on the outcome?

Murakano

Joined: 10 Sep 2009

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:51 pm Post subject:

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

I dunno. I think FIFA is so ludicrous in purporting to be fair and open. You may as well be taking boxing to task.

If it was another country (especially England) then FIFA might have made an example but of course it's France.......and you know Sepp Blater is a massive French fan. UEFA President is Michel Platini too. Is it any wonder not a mention of the controversy was mentioned on the FIFA match reports? their reports failed to acknowledge the volleyball moment in its entire match report! FIFA's report described the incident as "France's late stroke of luck"

Rolling Eyes

scotty12347

Joined: 16 Sep 2009

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject:

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

Aye, decisions like that are out of one's hands, as it were.

Using the arms/ forearms to trap the ball is an obnoxious habit and the more it's done the more players try to get away with it. What would they have us believe-they're using their manbreasts?

I dunno. I think FIFA is so ludicrous in purporting to be fair and open. You may as well be taking boxing to task.

FIFA and UEFA are a joke, i agree, but what would you have them do?

halfmanhalfbiscuit

Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject:

scotty12347 wrote:

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

FIFA and UEFA are a joke, i agree, but what would you have them do?

I have no practical ideas that would appeal to the current administration.

There's the proposal to put officials behind the goal which is plain dumb. Most of the time they'll be looking through net and the rest copping coins in the back of the head.

Retrospective bans would be good. If they were stuck to. But how are you going to argue it? In EPL of late Eduardo went down and got off because of the faintest touch. If N'gog was banned, well, who cares?He was handy in that match but how often does he play?

Point deductions in qualifying or in league play? I'd like that.

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