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Brutal Attack in Haebangchon : Any witnesses?
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The Gipkik



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In any other country, I'd say this sounds like mafia. Japan's got its yakuza, surely Korea has its counterpart--especially when it's a considerably more corrupt country than Japan. According to Transparency International anyways.
Japan=17 South Korea=39
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea does have a mafia- the 조폭. They're supposedly still active around Itaewon, lots of guys with hardcore tats hang out at the Hamilton pool.
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Lost



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^^^^ they are strippers
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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lost wrote:
^^^^^^ they are strippers


Mafia strippers? Seriously, my co teacher says the 조폭 only recruit extremely handsome dudes, this would make sense. Kind of. Confused
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English Matt



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Supposedly, from what I have heard from my Korean friends, many of the bouncers who work for the clubs in Hongdae are in some way related to the mafia. Guess it makes sense as they are the perfect front for laundering money or the perfect targets for a protection racket.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calicoe wrote:
we are at fault just for being there, but especially (and this is not a judgement, just an observation of how they think) if the female is out late at night alone. They consider her fair game.


Its no wonder a lot of K-women have early curfews.
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Toju



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

English Matt wrote:
Supposedly, from what I have heard from my Korean friends, many of the bouncers who work for the clubs in Hongdae are in some way related to the mafia. Guess it makes sense as they are the perfect front for laundering money or the perfect targets for a protection racket.

You've not been here long have you.....?
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English Matt



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toju wrote:
English Matt wrote:
Supposedly, from what I have heard from my Korean friends, many of the bouncers who work for the clubs in Hongdae are in some way related to the mafia. Guess it makes sense as they are the perfect front for laundering money or the perfect targets for a protection racket.

You've not been here long have you.....?


Been here a year and a half actually. I don't really enjoy going out to clubs really (and I find the clubs here desperately boring) so don't have much first hand knowledge of the clubs there
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And yet you claim there would be this huge outcry if Western guys did it?

Either there would be a huge outcry or making "such an admission would be considered shaming the woman and her family."

You can't have it both ways.

Besides which it's irrelevant. The victim in this case is a foreigner. Going to the police is the best way to handle this. They did go after a couple of cases where foreigners were raped/attacked in the past.


Korean culture places alot of shame on the victim of rape as well as the person caught for it. The stigma of being a rape victim pushes some women to remain silent about their ordeal.
Yes, many women in the west also remain silent, but we have victims' counseling and even perform rape kits on purported victims to see the extent of the crime- something Korea doesn't do in even major hosptials. Also, we have victims' rights groups that protect the victim from possible smear campaigns by relatives of the accused- again, something Korea DOESN'T have.
This subject is indeed very relevant because the perpetrators are banking on the woman to remain silent about what happened to her. The only way this would remain silent is if she did rely on the police to investigate the case. Again, the KNP are pretty like Keystone cops when it comes to investigating crimes within the foreign community.

As others have said, this would be all over the news if it were a Korean woman because of the area where it happened because of the huge concentrations of foreigners living in the area. It would most likely fuel intense xenophobic responses that what many foreigners experience now would be child's play.
However, since it was done to a foreigner, many Koreans would think that it truly doesn't concern them.

I am proposing that the victim and her family take this case to the international media to show how much discrimination there is, even in the application of law enforcement.


And before people start saying "Police in the US are even more racist", at least in the US a person has the ACLU to complain to if the police do treat them discriminately- something Korea truly lacks- again, a tick mark on the list of things that doesn't make Korea an advance nation.
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Forever



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE - this e-mail message from Dylan P., apparently the brother of the girl...


UPDATE



Sat, Nov 28, 2009



We would like to further update you on the event and the ongoing investigation.



On the evening of Saturday, Nov 21, and the early morning of Sunday, Nov 22, the victim was enjoying an evening out with her friends in Itaewon. At approximately 3:20am she walked down to the main road of Itaewon to get a taxi home. The next thing she knew, she was being pushed into the back of a car by 2 men. Although she cannot remember the exact route, she does know that they were heading out of Itaewon in the direction of Noksapyeong Station. The exact route after that remains a mystery due to the assault. The vehicle was a car/ limo that had 3 dark colored seats facing 3 adjacent seats in the back. The windows were tinted. The backseat was not lit making it difficult to see. There were 4 or 5 men inside the car including the driver. She didn�t notice a partition between the driver and the back, if there was one, it was down. There were 2 men on either side of her, 1 across from her and a driver. There may have been another man in the back facing her. The men in the back were all wearing dark suits and white shirts. They were speaking Korean to each other when she was first pushed into the car. She had no idea what was going on or where she was going and she continually asked to be let out of the car. She became very upset. Then one of the men sitting beside her reached across her and pulled up her jacket and went for her pants. She started to scream and shout. At this point 1 of the assailants began to punch her in the face repeatedly, yelling at her to �shut the f@%k up�. She believes that the other men in the car also punched her during the assault. This continued for approximately 10 mins. The victim defended herself and fought off the men, resulting in them saying, �She�s not worth it.� Then they pushed her out of the moving car on the road that loops around Mt.Namsan (So Wol Gil) past the entrance to JJ Mahoney�s near the Hyatt Hotel at 3:45am. We know this because this was when she made her first phone call. She suffered severe head and facial trauma from the assault and from being pushed from the car.



The man who did the majority of the assaulting was sitting across from her. He can be best described as short to medium height and small to medium build. He had to get out of his seat to assault her. Facially, he had a lean face/ jaw, black medium length hair down to his ears, parted on the right hand side, which fell in front of his eyes during the assault.



Please understand that some of the details might have changed or be a little hazy from the initial posting due to the severe emotional and physical trauma that she suffered from this assault.



She was immediately brought to the hospital where the authorities were contacted. The police came, took pictures and asked questions. In the last week, to the victim�s knowledge, the police have been reviewing CCTV cameras around Itaewon.



Again, if anyone has any information in regards to this crime, please contact the Yongsan Police Station (Cho Ju Hyun, 016-513-6563) or email her brother. The authorities are still seeking more leads, witnesses, or anything that might lead to the apprehension of these animals.



Lastly, we would like to thank everyone for their support, well wishes and assistance over the past week. We would also like to remind everyone to be aware of your surroundings, take care and look out for one another.

http://asiancorrespondent.com/korea-beat/itaewon-attack-update.htm#comments
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calicoe



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so sorry to hear of her injuries and the terrible ordeal that she went through. I send her a lot of healing thoughts. Please keep the pressure on to catch those beasts.
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