Korean Job Discussion Forums

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

The following quote was from the Friday that just passed. I'm posting this on Thursday.

bassexpander · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

A couple of notes:

- You were probably an alternate, someone else higher-up on the totem pole canceled, and they called you.

- You probably shouldn't say too much, because I know people from that school frequent this board.

- Why not do the interview? It's a nice school.

makemischief · Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: Traveling

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

edwardcatflap · Joined: 22 Mar 2009

I warned you about this when we had our little disagreement but you didn't listen. You don't come across very well on this forum and should be aware of that affecting your chances outside. I hope you get the job you're after seriously, but if you're going to reveal so much about yourself on a pubic forum you should show a bit more intelligence and respect.

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

Edward,

For all that you've said about what will happen outside of here... I have always said the same thing, "I'm not worried."

I'm not going to argue. However saying I don't come across very well on this forum doesn't really bother me. I offered something to people that might have been looking for a helping hand in getting an interview.

There are people out there that aren't as fortunate in getting callbacks, and I thought this was a long-shot and someone might want it.

If you don't want it, that's fine with me. I don't mind. But don't go acting like anyone else on here gives you anything...at least I offered.

So I made it public and thought someone could try and interview. No one at Sungkyunkwan cares what was said on here. If some guy shows up with an MA and tries to grab an interview, maybe they'll slip him in. If not, no harm.

Why does everyone question me until I have to give the "real answer"?? In the end no one wants to hear it anyways and you'll just find a way to get on my case for my response.

edwardcatflap · Joined: 22 Mar 2009

You see that's what I mean by not coming across very well. No one has a problem with anyone offering someone a helping hand, it's all the other things you come out with that make you look bad. You always choose to completely ignore any criticism levelled at you by changing the subject and putting yourself in a good light in a totally different area. That's not the sort of thing anyone wanting to give you a job would be impressed by. Occasionally admitting your real weaknesses is a really positive thing in the workplace, you should start practising it now

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

Edward,

"All what other things"?

Please enlighten me what "other things" were brought out in this thread.

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

Edward,

Please enlighten me about something.

How did you ever come to think that this forum in any way represents things happening in the real world?

You have mentioned several times about how things on this forum could affect me outside of here. I'm sorry, but that's just not rational.

This forum is but a small microcosm of the esl industry in Korea. Very little from this forum has any bearing on anything offline.

I'm living proof of that. You keep warning me what could happen... yet you have no idea that it won't...

edwardcatflap · Joined: 22 Mar 2009

when you ask a question like this

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

Edward...

1. The first quote was AFTER your little lecture. I requested something from "before" your lecture. The part after is me being polite to you because you really don't understand the situation.

2. Your second quote wasn't from me...that's Bassexpander you're calling "a bit thick". But thanks for trying.

Please choose something from BEFORE you're little lecture about how I'm going to have problems in the real world because of this message board. In reality it's not true anyways.

KoreanAmbition · Joined: 03 Feb 2008

Olivencia · Joined: 08 Mar 2009

KoreanAmbition,

Don't worry about it. You simply gave information.

Thanks for the heads up about this position....not taking it..but thanks anyway for posting.

cubanlord · Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Location: In Japan!

Hi all,

Listen, this is what I think. I know some people may feel as though being an alternate is a bad thing. In my opinion, it's not. It's better than being on the no list.

We just got done going through the hiring process and offering positions. There were good interviews, and then there were excellent interviews. Unfortunately, there were bad interviews as well. When interviewing, a lot depends on the panel, if, you interview with a panel such as how we do it where I work.

You have several different types of personalities on the panel and each has his or her own opinion on what they are looking for in a prospective employee. Some on the panel look for the credentials while others look for personability. Some look for pedagogical knowledge and training while others look for other things. If an interviewee doesn't know a thing about the panel, then s/he really is at a disadvantage, honestly.

There are other factors to consider such as the simple fact that there are candidates out there with better/more credentials than others. It's a fact that papers get you into the interview, but, what you do during the interview has an evening longer lasting impression. If you aren't ready, then you have failed before ever entering the interviewing room.

If I were to apply to a place such as Sungkyunkwan, I'd be happy to be an alternate. At least I'd be given the chance to show them why I deserve to be on the A list rather than the B list. The order in which one is chosen for an interview doesn't really matter. What matters is what you produce during the interview.

From a supervisor to those looking for a job, that's what I feel about the interview process.

***DISCLAIMER*** I also do know that at some places (not mentioning where), your interview can be mediocre, but, if your credentials are up there, then regardless of how mediocre your interview was, you'll still get the job. However, these places, in my opinion, are in the minority.

jinks · Joined: 27 Oct 2004 Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

I got my first university job through being on the third (3rd!) round of interviews. My academic qualifications (then) were OK, but not good enough to get me in the door on the first round. Since then, I've taken advantage of the sweet university deal to upgrade my qualifications.

During the interview process - it took all day - the Director of the Department told me bluntly in our private interview that I was at the bottom of the selection heap, but I just sucked it up and got the job. It's been onward and upward since then.