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Professor: name of job or title?

 
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Professor: name of job or title? Reply with quote

I always thought 'professor' was the name of a job, similar to teacher, pilot, or farmer.
But, recently I have seen people going by 'Professor Jones'. So, what is it? Or could it be both?
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Professor: name of job or title? Reply with quote

zappadelta wrote:
I always thought 'professor' was the name of a job, similar to teacher, pilot, or farmer.
But, recently I have seen people going by 'Professor Jones'. So, what is it? Or could it be both?


It is definitely both...but in no way is this recent.
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's recent to me, I haven't heard that until the last few weeks.

For me, I always knew it as the name of a job, not a title. If someone was a pilot, I would call them Captain Smith. If someone was a teacher, Mr./Mrs Smith. If someone was a professor, Dr. Smith.
I would never say Pilot Smith or Teacher Smith, so why is it Professor Smith?
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jinks



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people in an academic faculty have PhDs, so in NZ the title 'professor' is used for the department head. There are usually three professors in a department; the boss, the old boss (emeritus) and the next boss (assistant)
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Kimsmith



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on the country:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor
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hajima 99



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zappadelta wrote:
It's recent to me, I haven't heard that until the last few weeks.

For me, I always knew it as the name of a job, not a title. If someone was a pilot, I would call them Captain Smith. If someone was a teacher, Mr./Mrs Smith. If someone was a professor, Dr. Smith.
I would never say Pilot Smith or Teacher Smith, so why is it Professor Smith?


...sure but continuing with this same logic Zappa, how then would you address someone who introduces themselves as a medical doctor with the last name 'Smith'? I think we know the answer. Nowhere does it say that 'job' and 'title' must be different.
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zappadelta



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hajima 99 wrote:
zappadelta wrote:
It's recent to me, I haven't heard that until the last few weeks.

For me, I always knew it as the name of a job, not a title. If someone was a pilot, I would call them Captain Smith. If someone was a teacher, Mr./Mrs Smith. If someone was a professor, Dr. Smith.
I would never say Pilot Smith or Teacher Smith, so why is it Professor Smith?


...sure but continuing with this same logic Zappa, how then would you address someone who introduces themselves as a medical doctor with the last name 'Smith'? I think we know the answer. Nowhere does it say that 'job' and 'title' must be different.


That's true. So, is it mainly for someone that works at the university level that hasn't obtained a doctorate? That seems to be where I am seeing it used.
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vaticanhotline



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both here and in the States (so far as I can tell), the title of "Professor" is for anyone who teaches at a University. This is the case even if you don't have a PhD. I had a friend who taught in a University in the States for a few months as part of a Fulbright Scholarship, and she was referred to as "Professor", although at the time, she was two years away from completing her thesis. In Europe, or at least Ireland and the UK, the title of "Professor" is reserved for those who are awarded the title-the academic equivalent of a bishopric. Anyone who has a PhD is referred to as "Doctor". Everyone else, including the postgrads who teach but haven't finished their theses, are the scum of the earth and are referred to by their first names, if, that is, the lords of the toilet paper castles that are English Departments deign to even acknowledge their presence.
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