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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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 Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: The fried egg won't be reserved for a loser any more |
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I kind of felt like that Misuda chick went a bit too far with her comments, but this article cracks me up:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/11/113_56324.html
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Decades ago when Korea was one of the poorest nations in the world, eating an egg on the dinner table was considered a rare treat. When there was an egg, a housewife didn't give it to her children. She saved it for her husband who returned home after a long day's hard work.
The fried egg symbolized the respect the society attached to the Korean men, who were the pillar of the family and the backbone of the Korean workforce. In fact, that was how Korean men had been treated in a society where men called the shots. Perhaps not any more.
It all started when a female college student guest on KBS2 TV's talk show, ``Misuda,'' (Beauties' Chatterbox), dropped a bombshell, by saying a short man is a ``loser,'' adding she wouldn't date a short male.
A mountain of furious letters stormed the broadcaster that aired the popular TV show. The Internet forums were enraged by angry males.
Kim Jeong-woon who teaches cultural psychology at Myongji University in Seoul thinks the enraged response on the Internet on her remark and protest letters to the broadcaster reveals something more than the men's objection to the girls' apparent "prejudice" against short male.
In fact, the "loser" remark was beginning point of a larger social paradigm shift. That means, Kim wrote in Dong-A Ilbo on Saturday, "The fried egg now won't be reserved for a loser any more."
Kim also views that the outrage by men on the remark reveals the universal "trauma" of insecure Korean male...... |
My favorite line:
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| The outlook for Korean males is grim. "Now the Korean men will try hard to please the Korean women to survive. They will do plastic surgery to have a six-pack abdomen, if that's what the Korean women want. They will send amorous eye signals to win women's attention." |
Gosh forbid Korean men should have to stoop to sending "amorous eye signals."  |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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The korean gal who made the 'loser' comment clearly doesn't understand korean culture.
korean men #1 fighting male culture |
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UrbanStyle
Joined: 23 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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i know right, its ridiculous to have to send amorous eye signals to get a girl. woman should just come to you on there knees, holding a fried egg and rice  |
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bluelake
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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That was my breakfast this morning--fried egg and toast. Suddenly, I feel like a winner   |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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The moment Korean women manage to slip off the straightjacket, Korean men will be in trouble. The house of cards is wavering, however I don't think the paradigm shift has quite happened yet. If you think about it...the Korean male hierarchy has been redoubling their efforts.
For example..
* Women are still not equal before the law
*Women are still not equal in the workplace or in terms of job opportunities
*Women are not free to choose their partners to some extent (Parents still have a large say in who she marries).
*Women are objectified in the media
*Women who date outsiders are stigmatised, and foreign males are demonised by national media
*Women are stigmatised for not marrying by a certain age, bearing children, or staying at home to do housework
*Women are still subjected to assault and abuse and denied legal recourse.
...and most women still think all of the above is normal and acceptable.. because they have been denied an alternative viewpoint. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: The fried egg won't be reserved for a loser any more |
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I don't think the job opportunities or the independence women have in this country equals Japan yet, though Korean women might end up making a similar decision to not get married to avoid the yoke of patriarchy.
| Kim Jeong-woon who teaches cultural psychology at Myongji University wrote: |
| ...the universal "trauma" of insecure Korean male...... |
A point that several apologists on Dave's had been denying.
An interesting thread, bassexpander. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Oh lordy...The Korea Times is garbage when it says NETs are drunken rapists, but when it comes out and says "Korean Men are Insecure and Threatened" its written in stone.
Most of the young guys here seem to be doing pretty fine for themselves.
What utter silliness. |
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beercanman
Joined: 16 May 2009
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The average ajeoshhi doesn't have it so great either, does he? Long days at the office, sucking up to superiors, required drinking sessions, little family time, paying kids' hagwon bills, living with the ajumma...a lot of that sounds quite unpleasant to me. |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| In Western movies, Asian men are depicted as short, ill-mannered, lacking courage, and abusive towards women. |
Is that really worse than being an AIDS-ridden paedophile drug-taking criminal?
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| Korean men now live in a society where he could be easily prosecuted for simply sending a wrong look to a woman for "sexual harassment." |
Now thats hardly true, is it? |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Speaking of losers, that's what I call Koreans who insist on using unnecessary English.
If men are so wounded by this story-that-won't-go-away, maybe they could collectively learn to ignore what dull Korean twentysomethings think. Or maybe they could hold curveless Korean women to the same standard. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| nautilus wrote: |
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| In Western movies, Asian men are depicted as short, ill-mannered, lacking courage, and abusive towards women. |
Is that really worse than being an AIDS-ridden paedophile drug-taking criminal?
Exactly. And I'm sure the likes of Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Bruce Lee were all depicted as the above newspaper quote. 
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| Korean men now live in a society where he could be easily prosecuted for simply sending a wrong look to a woman for "sexual harassment." |
Now thats hardly true, is it?
Either that, or I must have missed something with the deferred rape and child molestation cases.
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| calicoe wrote: |
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| In Western movies, Asian men are depicted as short, ill-mannered, lacking courage, and abusive towards women. |
Is that really worse than being an AIDS-ridden paedophile drug-taking criminal?
Exactly. And I'm sure the likes of Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Bruce Lee were all depicted as the above newspaper quote.
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And before some wise guy comments that all Asian men are depicted as Kung Fu fighters--that's exactly how those guys are depicted in China. Most of the big blockbuster movie stars in China/Hong Kong have done some kind of Kung Fu movie and/or Triad gang movie, mostly intended for the domestic market. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| In Western movies, Asian men are depicted as short, ill-mannered, lacking courage, and abusive towards women. |
Notice that it doesn't say 'Korean men are depicted...' as they are rarely represented in Western movies(unless you include Team America). |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| ED209 wrote: |
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| In Western movies, Asian men are depicted as short, ill-mannered, lacking courage, and abusive towards women. |
Notice that it doesn't say 'Korean men are depicted...' as they are rarely represented in Western movies(unless you include Team America). |
Don't forget about Stealth. Jessica Biel's character was being tracked down North Korean soldiers. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: |
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I still think women have a pretty raw deal here. I mean, yeah, they call the shots now regarding their boyfriends (unless the boyfriend is rich, then maybe not), but once they get married the traditional roles still exist to a certain extent. The biggest problem, and I know this is also true back home, is the emphasis on beauty; a woman's appearance is critically important.
That said, I agree with a previous poster in that the men don't have it so hot either: crazy hours, little vacation, master-slave relationship with superiors, etc.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I'm grateful to not be Korean because as a foreigner I'm outside so many of the cultural expectations. |
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