Korean Job Discussion Forums

[Len8]

I've heard this visa is available to university teachers, and that you aren't required to get permission to work at other jobs on a part time basis if they have it.

I think there are some universities who are giving this visa, because they were new at hiring teachers. Maybe we could get our other universities to do the same.

[Real Reality]

Len8,

Even on an E-1 visa, don't you have to ask immigration for permission (in writing) to work at a second location?

Don't contracts usually indicate the need to get permission to work at a second job?

[coolsage]

With an E-1, you can work legally at another gig (e.g. a Junior College), provided that you have the paperwork to have your ARC notated as such.

[Real Reality]

coolsage,

Isn't there a form at immigration you have to fill out? Also, doesn't your primary employer have to approve? And, if you move from one junior college to another (secondary employer or part-time work), then don't you have to fill out another form?

[coolsage]

Yes, R.R: it can be arranged. It might have something to do with the level of nepotism in your neighborhood. I signed a contract at a National Uni, and hadn't been there a week before I was approached by a Korean prof in my department, whose wife taught at a nearby Junior dae-hak; they needed a part-time native speaker, for which they were willing to pay well. And the paperwork was expedited, and for 60,000 won from my pocket I was legit. My main employer knew about this, even cleared the evening where I might have been doing a couple of Institute classes to fulfill the terms of my contract. (I got those on another night.) I must have been too succesful, though; the college decided to hire a full-time teacher,and I was out of that job. Damn. It was easy money, too, using materials I'd already put together for my regular gig.

[J.B. Clamence]

Don't most universities forbid you from taking on a second job?

[coolsage]

No, you weren't paying attention. It can be done. Been there, done that, didn't get the Tshirt. I'll type slower. If your employer agrees, you can take an outside job. It will be added to your ARC. All above board. How you handle your privates, so to speak, is another matter.

[J.B. Clamence]

What do you mean "you weren't paying attention"? I didn't ask if you need official permission. I also didn't ask whether it "can be done". My question is regarding whether or not most universities are willing to allow their teachers to have second jobs. Mine doesn't. It's in my contract that I can't work outside the university during my tenure there. A lot of other universities make the same stipulation. So maybe yours doesn't. My question was regarding what the standard is among universities, and the answer to that question has not been covered.

"I'll type slower"?? It sounds to me like you need to read slower before you bust out the condescending bull*beep*.

[coolsage]

J.B: didn't mean to offend you. It has been a relatively long time in Korea, and sometimes I feel the effects of a certain lack of connection with the rest of the planet. This is the Termite Kingdom, as you must know by now, the nail that stands up is quickly hammered down. One learns to work around this phenomenon, as one learns to work around the relentless rudeness, etc., the stuff that everyone here knows pisses people off, and still we rise again and serve up the goods, because that is what we do. Cheers.

[J.B. Clamence]

Hey, no problem man. I know what you mean.

[coolsage]

All good things to you, J.B. Cheers. get that stamp on the back of your ARC. You seem like a nice guy; I'm betting that you're a Canuck. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Medic]

I heard that with the E1 visa you don't need written permission to do extra work outside of your regular job. You can just go to your extra job present your I.D with E1 on it and go to work straight away.

[coolsage]

One more time; as JB aptly pointed out: it's not the visa , it's your contract that determines whether or not outside work is permissible. Some contracts are stiffer than others. If outside work is not specifically forbidden by the contract, than the E1 allows for additional, legally sanctioned employment. Again, handling your privates is another matter.

[Len8]

Right, but the contract doesn't mean a thing iff you go and work at another place anyway, because even iff immigration pick you up on it do you really think they are going to contact the original employer. They usually have too many more important thinks to do.

As far as they're concerned they have given you a visa to work extra without permission, so they aint going to sweat over extraneous ridiculous conditions imposed by your main employer.

We have a clause in our contract that says we have to get permission before we work at any extra job, but the English faculty give us extra off campus work anyway. They thumb their nose at it, because they know that it was put in the contract by some administrative dork who wanted to boost his ego at our expense.

In the case that you get somebody at the professor level who will hold you to the letter of the contract, you'll probably find that he was educated in a Western country and treated terribly because people thought he was Japanese or something, and he is now taking out his bitterness on the Waeguk English teacher.

[Medic]

A lot of universities have that clause about getting permission before working at an extra job, but this is Korea. If your extra job wants you to get permission then I guess you have to get permission. If it doesn't ask you to get permission then don't. The clause really doesn't mean a hell of beans.