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The_Masked_Pro



Joined: 28 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject: Publishing Reply with quote

Thread went wayyyyyyy off topic by a few of the guys so it's no longer relevant.

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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Work for no better pay than a newbie teaching kindergarten and beef up their publication lists? Sounds too bad to be true.
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: Warning: Hankuk University of Foreign Studies (2.26M) Reply with quote

The_Masked_Pro wrote:

Also, one thing that they didn't PUT in their ad. I heard this DIRECTLY from one of the teachers who quit last semester. In order to renew your contract year after year you MUST write a thesis AND get it published in an international journal. This means giving up all of your vacation time to write a paper! Otherwise you will be canned regardless of qualifications.


i call...TROLL...on this!
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The_Masked_Pro



Joined: 28 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Warning: Hankuk University of Foreign Studies (2.26M) Reply with quote

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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM sent.
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The_Masked_Pro



Joined: 28 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile

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wharton



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised

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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In order to renew your contract year after year you MUST write a thesis AND get it published in an international journal.

This may simply be a requirement to have an article published, which some western universities do have, although most would have more class than to make it a condition for renewal.

I see many jobs with expectations like this: 2.26 with an MA. I see uni postings in Daegu requiring a doctorate and offering 2.26. I have no evidence, but my conclusion is that the uni loses nothing with ridiculous requirements-- if someone is foolish enough to have a PhD and work for 2.26, they will be hired, and if not, the uni will hire an MA or even BA and work their way down the resume list.
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The_Masked_Pro



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The_Masked_Pro wrote:
cubanlord wrote:
PM sent.


Replied!


Got it. Thanks. It's amazing that places would require such work yet they aren't willing to compensate appropriately.
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wharton



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that place has had a horrible rep for years (at least the past 7 years that i know of), people i know who work or have worked in other depts at hufs have said avoid the unigwon there its on par with wonderland as one of the worst places to work in korea
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wharton wrote:
moldy wrote:
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This may simply be a requirement to have an article published, which some western universities do have, although most would have more class than to make it a condition for renewal.


No, it is in a journal. And first they promised to pay a million for first paper, two million for second. Now, just do it or lose your job. Actually, people were told that even if you publishin a journal...they don't guarantee anything.

So scratch that. Razz

cubanlord wrote:
Quote:
It's amazing that places would require such work yet they aren't willing to compensate appropriately.


See above. Very Happy

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...but my conclusion is that the uni loses nothing with ridiculous requirements-- if someone is foolish enough to have a PhD and work for 2.26, they will be hired, and if not, the uni will hire an MA or even BA and work their way down the resume list.


Well, they will have massive turnover and ruin their reputation...but otherwise. Very Happy

Masked Pro wrote:
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Wharton - Would seriously like to know what you've been told.


I know people that still work there. I don't know if it's wise.

Oh, what the hell! Razz

Maybe an email is best as I can't PM Very Happy


Why not share details with the rest of us? It's not as if this thread is subtle as it is, and it is actually helpful to teachers.
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themagicbean



Joined: 04 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For what little it's worth, I haven't heard good things about HUFS, either. Interdepartmental conflict swallowing employees trying to please both heads, etc.
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The_Masked_Pro



Joined: 28 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surprised

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