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Passions

Joined: 31 May 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: Disturbing trend among airlines: Stewards |
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Is it just me or I'm noticing a lot more stewards on flights. Recent trips from LAX -> ICN flying on Korean Air, Asiana, and even Philippine Air, I've noticed several stewards on the flights.
Do these men actually apply to become a steward? or are they just placed there by the company to gain experience and eventually moved to other areas.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but I enjoy having a beautiful stewardess ask me if I need anything. What's going on!!!!  |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Does Thai Air have any ladyboys?
It's only a matter of time. |
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UrbanStyle
Joined: 23 Jul 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've noticed this too. They probably apply directly, my aunt and cousin are both stewardesses, its good money with full benefits and travel perks. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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This is 2nd and 3rd hand information, so don't take what I say as fact.
Not sure about Philippine Air, but I think the Korean ones are placed there for experience and are usually moved somewhere else after a while. The women can move too, but I think a lot generally quit after they get married. But women can move to different areas in the company too. In Asia, being a stewardess is still regarded as a very good job for women to have. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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UrbanStyle wrote: |
I've noticed this too. They probably apply directly, my aunt and cousin are both stewardesses, its good money with full benefits and travel perks. |
Yeah the travel perks must be nice, and I won't knock a job with adequate pay and benefits, especially these days, except to say..........it's not really that glamorous of a job anymore. Take away the travel perks and they are essentially glorified waitresses in the sky. |
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thunderbird
Joined: 18 Aug 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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its called security buddy, who dya want dealing with a violant drunk or mohamed and his box cutter, a big dude or hot chick? |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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thunderbird wrote: |
its called security buddy, who dya want dealing with a violant drunk or mohamed and his box cutter, a big dude or hot chick? |
I'm thinking the type of guys who take steward jobs are not going to strike much fear in any one's heart. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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As long as they keep the drinks coming I don't care.
Actually I find the stewardesses can get really bitchy on flights-mainly as they're stressed from having to deal with the Duty Free stuff and passengers behaving like they're in a department store. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Alitalia has always had a whole lot more stewards than stewardesses.
When I was 15, I flew Alitalia from London via Rome to Hong Kong. On the flight from Rome, there was a really cute steward there who, at the end of the flight, told me I was beautiful and had gorgeous long straight hair blah blah... then he asked me when I was returning. I didn't think twice... lo and behold, he was on the return flight and at the end of that flight, he asked me to marry him. I was like, 'Scusi, I am 15 years old!!!' He said he knew because he had looked it up, but he still wanted to keep in touch and to show me Rome as he knew it etc. etc. I just said no, I am sorry, but I got school and I couldn't possibly think about marriage or whatever right now and left it at that. He was still really nice and helped me with my luggage etc. If I had just been a little older I probably would have totally considered it. ha! |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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thunderbird wrote: |
its called security buddy, who dya want dealing with a violant drunk or mohamed and his box cutter, a big dude or hot chick? |
Have you seen male flight attendents?
But anyway, I don't know what the big deal is. I don't care as long as the service is still good. |
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Silk
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sector7G wrote: |
UrbanStyle wrote: |
I've noticed this too. They probably apply directly, my aunt and cousin are both stewardesses, its good money with full benefits and travel perks. |
Yeah the travel perks must be nice, and I won't knock a job with adequate pay and benefits, especially these days, except to say..........it's not really that glamorous of a job anymore. Take away the travel perks and they are essentially glorified waitresses in the sky. |
I have a female friend who just got hired by Qatar Airways, there was something like 1800 applicants and they hired I think 16 people. Jobs with the prestigious airlines are crazy competitive. She went to a special flight attendant academy in Seoul just to prepare for two job interviews.
While the jobs have always been waitresses in the sky, it's more than just the travel perks. Particularly for Korean people (mostly women) who have lived abroad and come back home to find their future life in Korea somewhat paling in comparison, they eagerly want these jobs as a way to get out of Korea.
As far as perks, I think with Qatar new attendants start at 3mil won a month, and the company pays for absolutely everything in terms of living expenses, as well as per diem for layovers. The attendants work maybe 3-4 days a week, closer to 3.
There was one male korean who was hired, he was a former T.V. actor. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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One of the best flight experiences I ever had was on route to Fiji with their national carrier, I forget the name. At first I was a little taken suprised to see that the entire cabin crew were these big Fijian males. About an hour into the flight I ask for a beer, a Fiji Bitter. (If you ever find it, give it a try.) The dude gives me a big smile, whips his arm around his back, and tosses me the beer from across an empty isle of seats. Cool. Seeing at it was a pretty good beer, I ask for another. No worries, these guys know what a long flight is like Basically, after expressing my delight at this new found beer, the guys working the flight kept chucking me a brand new Fiji Bitter every 40 minutes or so, without me ever having to ask. 8 hours later and much, much drunker than when I started out, I arrived in Fiji, where I promptly fell asleep in my hotel room at 4pm in the afternoon:) |
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Konglishman

Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Nanjing
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion, the best airline both in terms of cost and quality, is Singapore Airlines. Fortunately, I have yet to see a flight steward on Singapore Airlines. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Silk wrote: |
Sector7G wrote: |
UrbanStyle wrote: |
I've noticed this too. They probably apply directly, my aunt and cousin are both stewardesses, its good money with full benefits and travel perks. |
Yeah the travel perks must be nice, and I won't knock a job with adequate pay and benefits, especially these days, except to say..........it's not really that glamorous of a job anymore. Take away the travel perks and they are essentially glorified waitresses in the sky. |
I have a female friend who just got hired by Qatar Airways, there was something like 1800 applicants and they hired I think 16 people. Jobs with the prestigious airlines are crazy competitive. She went to a special flight attendant academy in Seoul just to prepare for two job interviews.
While the jobs have always been waitresses in the sky, it's more than just the travel perks. Particularly for Korean people (mostly women) who have lived abroad and come back home to find their future life in Korea somewhat paling in comparison, they eagerly want these jobs as a way to get out of Korea.
As far as perks, I think with Qatar new attendants start at 3mil won a month, and the company pays for absolutely everything in terms of living expenses, as well as per diem for layovers. The attendants work maybe 3-4 days a week, closer to 3.
There was one male korean who was hired, he was a former T.V. actor. |
I wish I had not used the "waitress in the sky reference", because it may have sounded like I was disparaging waitresses, which I was not(ever see the opening scene in Reservoir Dogs?). I respect any hard working person who does what they can to put food on the table. Besides, I have not exactly set the world on fire myself.
It's just that once I started flying more frequently about 10 years ago I saw what a tough job flight attendants really had. |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sector7G wrote: |
thunderbird wrote: |
its called security buddy, who dya want dealing with a violant drunk or mohamed and his box cutter, a big dude or hot chick? |
I'm thinking the type of guys who take steward jobs are not going to strike much fear in any one's heart. |
Fear, possibly not. But it's a well-known fact (in my particular circle, anyway) amongst female foreigners that male stewards are a goldmine. They are good looking, well-mannered, have fantastic smiles and speak ridiculously fluent English. Also, finished with army service (check) and have a real job (check) that provides enough of an income not to be living with the parents, but not the ridiculous kind of schedule most office workers are under (check and check).
I've known a few. It's incredibly competitive, actually -- a fantastic job that they have to work their asses off to get. And no, they're not all gay. |
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