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bacasper

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: Father of Jackson's accuser commits suicide |
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Michael Jackson was always innocent
Posted : Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:30:35 GMT
By : Bang Media
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Michael Jackson's older brother Jermaine has claimed the suicide of Evan Chandler proves the late pop star was innocent of the child sex abuse allegations made in 1993 against his 13-year-old son Jordan.
Jermaine Jackson says he now has proof his brother Michael Jackson was innocent of child molestation accusations.
The late pop legend's older brother has spoken out about the 1993 claims that Michael sexually abused 13-year-old Jordan Chandler and claims the recent suicide of the teenager's father, Evan Chandler, proves the accusations were false.
Jermaine, 54, believes the dentist - who was found dead in bed on November 5 after shooting himself in the head - killed himself because he felt guilty.
Speaking at a charity event at the Magic Johnson AMC theatre on Monday (23.11.09), Jermaine said: "All the things that we have been through as a family, the false allegations against my brother, from the 1993 case where they were accusing him of the most horrible things. This kid's father has committed suicide because he just couldn't take it and now the kid has come forward and said Michael never touched him."
Since Michael died in June there have been several rumours published on the internet which claim Jordan, now 29, has since admitted the abuse claims were false.
Michael always maintained his innocence, and eventually settled out of court with the Chandler family in January 1994 for $22 million. Jordan also had to sign a contract agreeing never to talk about the allegations. |
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Jermaine is exploiting the suicide of the father of Michael Jackson�s first accuser to whitewash his brother�s life. But did Evan Chandler kill himself out of the guilt Jermaine attributes to him for having destroyed his brother�s reputation?
Evan Chandler by now was elderly, wheelchair-bound, and would have been at increased risk of depression even if he were not feeling guilty about having destroyed Jackson�s career as well as his own son Jordan�s happiness.
Raymond Chandler is Evan's brother. In his book All That Glitters is this transcript of a telephone conversation he had with his brother at the time:
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Jackson's an evil guy... June [Jordan's mother] is harming Jordan and Jackson is harming him and I can prove it�It will be a massacre if I don't get what I want. Michael is bad for my son. I know what he has to hide. Michael is using his age and experience and money and power to take advantage of Jordan. He is greatly harming him for his own selfish reasons. He is not the altruistic human being he appears to be. What will happen to him will be beyond his worst nightmare. The facts are so overwhelming that everyone will be destroyed in the process. |
Unfortunately, "everyone" included his own son. Jordan had long been denying molestation by Jackson in response to his father's inquiries. It was only after Jordan had been separated against his will from Jackson for a week and while as a patient under anesthesia in the chair of his dentist father that he finally muttered a "yes" in response to the question of whether Jackson had ever touched his genital.
Evan's second wife, after having observed Michael and Jordan together after a time commented to her husband, "It's obvious that the pair are in love." Jordie's lawyer frankly admitted, "Our client loved Michael Jackson." Jackson�s publicity chief, Bob Jones, wrote
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Michael�s wooing of the young boy from Rent-a-Wreck was embarrassing: the cooing, hugging, and holding hands. Many of the hotel staff were whispering things such as: �They may as well kiss,� or �Did we miss the wedding?� It was shameful, yet to Michael it was normal behavior. I would later name the trip �The Honeymoon,� because it was apparent that Michael Jackson was honeymooning with the boy.
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Evan felt he was losing his son, especially after the boy said he would not obey him when his father denied him permission to join Jackson on the Dangerous tour. Contrary to what most people believe, Evan pursued the case not for the money, but rather to win back the son he felt he was losing. Unfortunately for all involved, he ended up losing his son's affection as well.
Thus it is plausible that these events weighed on his mind as he pulled the trigger, ending his life. It is just not in the way that Jermaine would have us believe.
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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A person committed suicide, but he left no note. One can only have conjecture. If you had a suicide note, then that would be really noteworthy. I have no idea what really happened, but I know one case where one person had cancer and his mom wanted money from Jackson. |
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bacasper

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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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Adventurer wrote: |
A person committed suicide, but he left no note. One can only have conjecture. If you had a suicide note, then that would be really noteworthy. I have no idea what really happened, but I know one case where one person had cancer and his mom wanted money from Jackson. |
You are speaking of the Gavin Arvizo case from 2003 in which Jackson was acquitted of all charges, and rightfully so. The differences however between that and the 1993 Chandler case are numerous and glaring.
But of course, you are correct to say we cannot know for sure why he committed suicide. We can only conjecture in response to the news report using what we do know. |
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visitorq
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:05 am Post subject: |
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I always reckoned he was innocent anyway - simply because the kids said so. If molestation had been going on, surely people like Macauly Culkin (sp?) would have know about or experienced it and come forward eventually... In fact they claimed the opposite. |
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bacasper

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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: |
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It all depends on what is meant by "innocent" and "molestation." In the 2003 case, he was certainly innocent of the kidnapping charges, and of the molestation charges he was "innocent" in the sense that they were not proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
In 1993 however, it is fairly clear that a full-blown ( ) love and sex relationship was going on, as evidence by Jordie's statement to the social worker that "he ate my semen" and by his accurate, detailed description to police of Jackson's genitalia. Jordie himself never really considered it "molestation," and resented his father for forcing him into the position of denouncing his best friend and lover.
Even Jordan's father himself, upon learning of their bed-sharing in Jordie's own house for a month continuously, did not consider it might be "molestation" at first and merely thought it might be a gay relationship which he was OK with. It was only later, when he felt he was losing Jordie and shopped around to various professionals what he could do to get back his son that the idea of "molestation" began to take shape in his mind. That would be his key, his ace in the hole, to stopping the relationship.
Does one pay $22 million for a case in which one is "innocent"? And not very well known is the case of Jason Francia, to whom Jackson paid $2 million to quash similar allegations.
Additionally, there is a long list of boys and parents whom Jackson "paid" in the sense of giving them lavish gifts (e.g. a Rolls-Royce to the parents of Jimmy Safechuck, the boy in this famous Pepsi commercial).
Lastly, Jackson received injections of the sexual appetite suppressant Depo-Provera, sometimes called the "chemical castration" drug and frequently used in the treatment of pedophilia, from Dr Alimorad Farshchian.
Jackson was a childishly "innocent," sexually active boylover. |
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hagwonnewbie

Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Location: Asia
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Dentistry is the highest paid starting profession. With a successful practice and a 22 million dollar settlement, I doubt this guy had financial issues.
I've read again and again that dentists commit suicide more than other professions and have the highest rate of substance abuse related to prescription drugs. |
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bacasper

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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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hagwonnewbie wrote: |
Dentistry is the highest paid starting profession. With a successful practice and a 22 million dollar settlement, I doubt this guy had financial issues.
I've read again and again that dentists commit suicide more than other professions and have the highest rate of substance abuse related to prescription drugs. |
Dr Chandler was wheelchair-bound and had been out of practice for many years. And once Jordan turned 18, his father no longer had control of the pursestrings of the settlement. Evan had been living with Jordan until his death and was apparently dependent upon his son financially. Whether or not that weighed on his decision is pure speculation at this point. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:59 am Post subject: |
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hagwonnewbie wrote: |
Dentistry is the highest paid starting profession. With a successful practice and a 22 million dollar settlement, I doubt this guy had financial issues.
I've read again and again that dentists commit suicide more than other professions and have the highest rate of substance abuse related to prescription drugs. |
Dentists have a very high starting income but are much less financially successful at start than it would seem at first glance. The cost of education is extremely high:
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Student Debt: In 2007, 91% of dental students graduated with an average debt load of about $157,000. The amount of debt plays a role in the decisions that students make on where to set up a practice and work. Highly populated, affluent areas offer the best options for new dentists. |
http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs094/1102168765265/archive/1102431342504.html
Further, there are massive startup costs for a new dentist.
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When other debts (home mortgage, auto loan, consumer credit) are included, the average total debt faced by 2006 grads was $246,903. This does not include the cost of establishing a new practice�which is estimated to be $250,000 in 2008, according to Dr. Wendling. |
http://www.cds.org/for_your_practice/online_columnists/practice_management/economy.html
I assume that the high rate of suicide among dentists is more related to their debt than it is to the stress from diffing around strangers mouths.
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Does one pay $22 million for a case in which one is "innocent"? And not very well known is the case of Jason Francia, to whom Jackson paid $2 million to quash similar allegations. |
Yes, probably. Jacko was an oddball and sharing a bed with little boys is gross and irresponsible but I don't believe he was molesting them. He had the money to sweep it under the rug and avoid the trial.
Anyways, people off themselves all the time. I don't know if we can draw a line of causation in this case.
MJ's brothers have wasted no time in trying to capitalize on his death. They've got a new show on A&E:
http://www.aetv.com/the-jacksons-a-family-dynasty/
His family is nuts. Maybe not Janet. But the brothers and the father are bottom feeding scum. |
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bacasper

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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
Jackson was a childishly "innocent," sexually active boylover. |
If any more proof is needed:
Michael Jackson had jab to curb sex urges for young boys
EXCLUSIVE by Kate Mansey in Los Angeles 9/08/2009
A doctor has revealed how he prescribed Michael Jackson a �chemical castration� drug to suppress his sexual urges towards under-age boys.
Jacko � notorious for sharing his bed with young boys � took a powerful drug given to sex offenders to cool his sexual appetite.
The drug - Depo Provera - was prescribed to him by highly-respected Dr Alimorad Farshchian, who was concerned about Jackson�s behaviour. Normally used for birth control, it restricts men�s flow of testosterone-producing brain hormones.
And asked if Dr Farshchian�s had prescribed drugs to Jacko to curb his sex drive, his spokesman confirmed: �Yes, that�s exactly it. He was trying to help Michael.�
more at link |
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