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bellatore
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:48 pm Post subject: Disappearing pension |
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I just returned home last week after completing a year's contract with GEPIK. My co-teacher didn't know how to process the end of my stay. She got through most of it, but she told me the day I was leaving to go to the pension office at the airport before I left and show them my alien registration card. She said they'd give me cash for my pension. I knew this didn't sound right, but she was supposed to be the one with the information. My Korean abilites are far from adequate to find out this information for myself. So, I went to the airport and asked Information for the pension office. They never heard of it. I asked the guy at check-in. He had never heard of it. I went to the immigration office and that guy didn't know what I was talking about. There's no pension office at the airport. I called my co-teacher, who said there was nothing she could do because she was already at her home and the administrators had gone for the day. I told her to make a copy of my card (from a copy she had) and that I'd also make a copy. I knew they'd keep my card when I left. She told me she'd email me the next day and let me know what I should do, but it's a week later and I haven't heard from her. I realized later that I don't have her email address. I wrote to another teacher and asked for contact info for the co-teacher, but she's not writing me either. I can't afford to lose this money. I'm also furious that I spent a year there and I might not get all that's due to me. Does anyone have any suggestions about how I can get this money? I'm jobless in California and I need all the cash I can get. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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You should've went to the pension office with your alien card, bank account information and a plane ticket to show that you were leaving Korea. You can still apply for your refund from home, I believe.
Maybe someone can chime in here and give you the proper phone number(s) for the pension office You can check your balance over the phone and I think online as well. As far as getting it ASAP, you're SOL. Might take a month or so.
Hate to say this, but you should've looked into all of this before leaving. Pension office at the airport... That's too funny. |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Let this be a lesson to all newbies - NEVER trust a K co-teacher to know (or do) what is required when it comes to important matters such as pension. Do your research and take matters into your own hands! |
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antoniothegreat

Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong
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Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Let this be a lesson to all newbies - NEVER trust a K co-teacher to know (or do) what is required when it comes to important matters such as pension. Do your research and take matters into your own hands! |
ditto...
that is unfortunate that it happened, but it is a bit your fault for allowing the situation to happen. things like that should be looked into a few months before you leave, also, before the school knows you will leave, that way they dont get any ideas on how to abuse you or maybe they wont care as well.
anyways, a friend of mine had to leave after a few years of work, he sent me a bunch of documents to try to have the money sent to his account back home, including power of attorney (formally giving me the power to do this) but they still refused. the pension office said he must do it in person. so he has like 5 million sitting here. someday he will take a vacaation here, visit me, and collect his money. |
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bixlerscott

Joined: 27 Sep 2006 Location: Near Wonju, South Korea
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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cruisemonkey wrote: |
Let this be a lesson to all newbies - NEVER trust a K co-teacher to know (or do) what is required when it comes to important matters such as pension. Do your research and take matters into your own hands! |
Yep, I had to show and tell my public school people what to do and how to do it with my situation of being their first foreign English teacher for they didn't know or understand much of anything relevant to this new situation I brought to them. I would've been in trouble had I not taught in Korea before to know what to do and how to do it as they didn't know and I didn't have much of anyone around to relate with. It behooves you and is your responsibility to know what to do and how to do it ranging from visa matters to financial matters to teaching English and on to everything else. This means you have to be on the ball outside the classroom and not expect anyone else to actually help you until you get them on your side.
You might look into applying for pension from outside of Korea though I heard it takes 4ever. Or you can leave it in the account if coming back to teach another year and then claim it at the end of your next job. Definitely check with NPS if you have an account balance and how much it is. Should be 2X of what you paid in. Schools are not required to pay 1st month according to NPS as was my situation. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:26 am Post subject: |
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If you're in Canada you can make an application with HRDC. It took me a while to find the right department within HRDC because no one I called with the Canadian government could figure out why I was calling them about Korean pension. But the office does exist. Just keep asking for the department that deals with Canada's social security agreement with Korea and you'll get it eventually. Unfortunately I don't have the information now or I'd give it to you.
However, I will warn you that it will take over a year for them to even look at your application. They claim to be very short-staffed. But you will eventually get your money. I never got mine because I was back in Korea by the time they got to my application.
If you're in the States I'm sure there's a similar office there. Hopefully it's more efficient than the Canadian one. |
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Mithrae
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Contact the nearest Korean embassy in California. They should have the information. If they don't, they should be able to give you the contact information for the pension office in Seoul. It's in the Koryu Building about 1 km from Seoul Station. Given the nature of their jobs, the staff speak very good English, so you can communicate with them. It does, however, take 6 weeks to get the money after you've filled out all of the paperwork. The good news is that they can put it into your US bank account. It's your money. You can get it. It's there waiting for you to claim. You just need to contact the correct authorities to tell you exactly how to do it.
Phone the Korean consulate Monday morning.
Note: To get more hits on your thread, and more detailed advice (perhaps even the phone number of the pension office), change the thread title to something like "Applying for Korean pension from outside Korea.' There's also a 'sticky' on this website ('Job Related Discussion Forum')about pension refunds. There might be pertinent information on there about overseas applications. |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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The above, as well as it doesn't matter a lick what anyone says to anyone. Unless it's written down on a piece of paper, it never happened. Please, everybody: I hear the words "Don't worry about it" far too often here on the peninsula.
Get things in writing! If it's not in writing, it's a rumor! |
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bellatore
Joined: 04 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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Thank you so much to all of you who offered useful information. This was my second year in Korea and so different from the first. (different job) The first time, it was all taken care of, so to suggest I should have known better than to trust my Korean co-teacher is kind of cold. We don't do things we don't know we're supposed to do. Anyway, I do appreciate the advice and I hope no one else will have this kind of experience. I'm digging and I do hope I'll get it all worked out. |
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Mithrae
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:46 am Post subject: |
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The Galbijim website has kindly provided contact information on the various pension offices in Korea. Here it is.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/National_Pension_Offices#Head_Office
Best of luck brother.
(Thank you Galbijim for your informative link. People helping people is always good.) |
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summer33ny
Joined: 10 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know when to begin filing for pension refunds? How early? |
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mmstyle
Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Location: wherever
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Good time to do it: about a month before your contract is up, as long as you have a ticket. They should be able to estimate what the final payment into your pension will be and when it is due. |
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