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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
I'm going to say it again even though I posted it earlier: Who on God's green earth thinks that Sarah Palin is attractive? ...


I must agree with you there. But........I guess compared to Hillary.......... Laughing Shocked
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
My favorite Led Zep album is In Through the Out Door. I wish radio stations would play it more instead of "Stairway to Heaven" over and over and over and over...


There's a Zep album called Stairway to Heaven?

Oh, and Houses of the Holy is the best. Have no doubt.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put the album name in italics and the song in parentheses. Sheesh. Cool

I like Houses of the Holy too. I'm just a little sick of the earlier albums. Some bands don't know when to quit (coff, coff, Rush, Stones) but I think Zep kept getting better.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcviking wrote:
All sports are lame and boring. American football especially is latent homo sexual desire made into a spectacle. Sports are the downfall of society and are correlated with alcoholism, segregation, spousal abuse, and illegal gambling. "Athletes" can receive a free college education because they can catch a ball, even if they can't read. People that cry at games because their team won are utter losers. Watching ESPN to watch a bunch of old football players have wet dreams over new players and arguing who is better has to be the most useless activity in all of history.


You need to start watching real sports like Equestrian, Gymnastics, and Figure Skating.

I like to play sports, but for something to watch, I need the artistic element these days.

Sarah Palin is smarter than people give her credit for. You don't rise like that without smarts/a deal with the dark powers.
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:


Sarah Palin is smarter than people give her credit for. You don't rise like that without smarts/a deal with the dark powers.


Street smarts and intelligence are two different things, both Palin and Bush have street smarts, but we've seen how that translates into a position of power.
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asylum seeker



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is too long.
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donducky



Joined: 02 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: As with Canada/Quebec, so with . . . Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
2. Really unpopular opinion: During the 1995 referendum, I refused to sign a school petition begging Quebec not to vote to separate from Canada. I encouraged Quebec to leave Canada. I'm tired of them whining about their own culture and electing every second prime minister and sucking billions of transfer payments. I want them to leave Canada, and on a bad day wish there was a constitutional way of making them separate. Let France support them.


Imagine how much better off the US would be today had it simply said "good riddance" to the South, all the way back in 1860!

The 2000 presidential election would have gone like this:

AL GORE--Elected president of the USA
G.W. BUSH--Elected president of the CSA

Simple! Everything solved right there! No hanging chads!

and so on and so on and . . .
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donducky



Joined: 02 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Rapism; alcoholist Reply with quote

PaperTiger wrote:

Alcoholism isn't a real disease. Real diseases aren't something you can choose to have.

Good point.

We use the word "rapist" to describe a man (usually) who commits sexual assault--but why is there no "rapism"?

Similarly, "alcoholism" is thrown round all the time, but when have you ever heard a heavy drinker called an "alcoholist"?

My hypothesis: is you can't substitute -ist for -ism, or the other way round, and still come out with a word that makes sense, then . . . you've probably left a whole lot of thinking undone.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: As with Canada/Quebec, so with . . . Reply with quote

donducky wrote:
Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
2. Really unpopular opinion: During the 1995 referendum, I refused to sign a school petition begging Quebec not to vote to separate from Canada. I encouraged Quebec to leave Canada. I'm tired of them whining about their own culture and electing every second prime minister and sucking billions of transfer payments. I want them to leave Canada, and on a bad day wish there was a constitutional way of making them separate. Let France support them.


Imagine how much better off the US would be today had it simply said "good riddance" to the South, all the way back in 1860!

The 2000 presidential election would have gone like this:

AL GORE--Elected president of the USA
G.W. BUSH--Elected president of the CSA

Simple! Everything solved right there! No hanging chads!

and so on and so on and . . .


Actually Al Gore would have faced George W. Bush for C.S.A. President. Al Gore is from Tennessee, G.W. is (sorta) from Texas.

Bill Bradley vs. Steve Forbes and/or Pat Buchanan(Reform/Whig?) for the Federals.

Plus there would be a third, and possibly fourth, nation out west. Not to mention a DMZ between D.C. and Richmond.

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Street smarts and intelligence are two different things, both Palin and Bush have street smarts, but we've seen how that translates into a position of power.


Book smart hasn't done any better- Bob McNamara & the Whiz Kids, G.W.'s "All-Star" Cabinet, The Rhodes Scholar (Clinton).

It seems you need a mix of both- and most importantly, 'moral' courage and decisiveness, with a touch of ruthlessness. See Polk, Lincoln, FDR, Nixon.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It seems you need a mix of both- and most importantly, 'moral' courage and decisiveness, with a touch of ruthlessness. See Polk, Lincoln, FDR, Nixon.

Yes, that's very true. The best presidents were well-educated (as I keep saying, Nixon composed classical music and was fluent in Latin!), had strong interpersonal skills and street-smarts (FDR), and had an alpha assertiveness or drive (Lincoln).

Sarah Palin has street smarts, admittedly, and certainly enough arrogance. But she couldn't name anything she reads, thinks she can see Russia from Alaska, and got punked by a Montreal radio station when she didn't know the prime minister of Canada, her nation's largest trading partner and border state -- one week after the Canadian election! It's not unreasonable to demand that the ruler or vice-ruler of the USA should have all three skills in spades.

This growing antagonism to education and intelligence in the states and Canada scares me a little. She is loved because she's not educated. How many people know that Obama has a JD? It was never promoted, lest he end up like Adlai Stevenson. For every university student in the west there is a joke: the geek scientist, the burger-frying humanities student, Principal Skinner and Miss Kerbapel in Education. Another unpopular opinion, I guess: at least I give Koreans credit when I try to explain what a nerd is and they have no concept of why people would make fun of an engineer or scientist.
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jhuntingtonus



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
Really unpopular opinion that could get me into trouble: this feminist dogma that rape is an act of power and not of sex. I don't think emotions happen in isolation and that quite often sexual assault is both ugly urges mixed together, such as a man who believes that an attractive girl is teasing him.


True. The average age of American females is over 40. The average age of rape victims is 16.
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