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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Underwaterbob
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| I'll never understand why people feel they are entitled to live beyond their means. |
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Fox
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| I'll never understand why people feel they are entitled to live beyond their means. |
Because of credit. Let people have everything they want as long as they promise to pay for it later, and many of them will take more than they can afford and then play victim. |
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jmuns
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| yeah what is she complaining about, her house looks pretty nice too just from the kitchen. is it just her mom earning the money to live there? and i like how cnn goes on to say that law school will just pile more debt on to her life. yeah well no one is forcing her to go to ucla or law school. |
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Fox
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| and i like how cnn goes on to say that law school will just pile more debt on to her life. yeah well no one is forcing her to go to ucla or law school. |
Seriously. If she doesn't think it's economically beneficial to do it, then she shouldn't go. |
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xingyiman
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| Keeping up with the Joneses |
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jmuns
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| Keeping up with the Joneses |
well said |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Keeping up with the Joneses |
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The problem is that everybody falls into it. I dare you to go back to wherever you came from and try to live on the margins of society in order to save money. Pretty soon you'll be socially ostracized, or at least not hanging with the kind of crowd you'd really like to. We can slip through the cracks here in Korea because we aren't held to Korean cultural standards, not unlike miniorities back home who can live 6 to an apartment and share a car or two. But when you're one of the natives the rules change. I tried to "rough it" back in the states for a while to save money, no car live in a cheap hotel, etc... It was amazing how peoples' attitudes toward me changed. |
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jmuns
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Keeping up with the Joneses |
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The problem is that everybody falls into it. I dare you to go back to wherever you came from and try to live on the margins of society in order to save money. Pretty soon you'll be socially ostracized, or at least not hanging with the kind of crowd you'd really like to. We can slip through the cracks here in Korea because we aren't held to Korean cultural standards, not unlike miniorities back home who can live 6 to an apartment and share a car or two. But when you're one of the natives the rules change. I tried to "rough it" back in the states for a while to save money, no car live in a cheap hotel, etc... It was amazing how peoples' attitudes toward me changed. |
i fall into it as well. however i also realize that its my choices i'm making, and when i have no money back home, or student loans that i am paying off now and will be for a long time, i dont feel bad about it. i made the choice and i'm going to pay for it. and you're right, people will totally look at you as an outcast for living like you were trying to. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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There's a guy here who moans all the time about the expensive mortgage he's paying on a big house in Florida and his constant cries of poverty is supposed to excuse his not chipping in for gas when we go in my car on a road trip.  |
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banjois
Joined: 14 Nov 2009
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Anybody notice the two laptops she had?
There's keeping up with the Joneses, and then there's just bein' dumb. |
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Draz
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Yeah, I feel sorry for you |
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Don't be jealous of people whose parents make more money than your parents. It won't get you anything but bitter.
I wish I could take my own advice! |
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I'm no Picasso
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| I'd be really interested to hear how many jobs you all worked to put yourselves through college and maintain your living expenses independent of your parents' assistance. |
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Fox
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| I'd be really interested to hear how many jobs you all worked to put yourselves through college and maintain your living expenses independent of your parents' assistance. |
Why do you qualify your statement with the bolded text? Having parental assistance during college is a wonderful benefit, but that doesn't mean those who lack it have some sort of license to be financially irresponsible. |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Fox wrote: |
| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
| I'd be really interested to hear how many jobs you all worked to put yourselves through college and maintain your living expenses independent of your parents' assistance. |
Why do you qualify your statement with the bolded text? Having parental assistance during college is a wonderful benefit, but that doesn't mean those who lack it have some sort of license to be financially irresponsible. |
I don't think she was giving license for financial irresponsibility, but instead asking how many people would likewise be financially unstable had they not benefited from their parents financial generosity.
I worked in manufacturing while I was in school. I made window blinds, pop-tarts, and even pumped gas. Many people are too good to put in a good days work. It's a fairly ridiculous pretension. I compare it to carnivorous people who condemn hunters for their "cruelty." It is somehow morally superior to pay someone else to bloody their hands in your name. Likewise, consumerists will moan to the government, television, anyone who will listen and sympathize with them, because they are afraid to put in the hours and the strain to work like anyone else.
It's not easy being working class. But it is a whole Hell of a lot harder to be a washed-up upper-class girl on welfare. I'll take my crooked back, calluses, and chip on my shoulder over financial dependence any day of the week. I'm happy with my 1996 Subaru with the busted up front end. It's done and paid for. And that's how it ought to be. Leave your parents' retirement funds alone, they've earned it. And now it's your turn. Work hard, protect your investment in yourself, and keep your complaints private. Co-commiseration only makes more misery. She obviously needs to grow up. |
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