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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Quitting - the exit plan... |
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The rant:
I'm quitting the $***hole.
Today came the long awaited talking too I knew I was gonna receive..
Issue 1: I'm late. Reasons they may think I'm late include stepping into class one or two minutes late or not knowing when I have class thanks to the infamous last minute change up. I of course explain all the KT are late for class, but I shouldn't worry about them [even though everyone at my school seems to care about what I do] and it's okay for them because they "apologize" to the students when they are late.
Issue 2: My lessons aren't as good as they used to be. As I said before, I teach from the book now and don't make materials. I teach exactly as the KT do. Apparently I'm doing it wrong. I should make materials (I'm not required too) and if I teach from the book I should teach only from the book and not use anything else (no games, no free conversation, etc. I don't know what's gonna happen for the next 3 weeks seeing as the book has BEEN done.)
Issue 3: After school classes. Apparently I don't try hard enough and I'm late [of course], and one student complained to his parents who complained to the school even though they have never met me let alone seen my class. After I proved to them that I am not late and that students ditch class despite me trying to catch them after school, they still told me not to be late and that the low student attendance is my fault and that I don't try [despite me trying to make a film with the students the past month, I've only gotten 1 out of 10 scripts back].
Issue 4: Stop drinking. I came into work with soju on the breath one time (2 weeks ago) and the whole school thinks I drink like a horse now (actually I do, but as long as I come to work on time [SOBER] and do my job, what's it to them. Plus I never drank this much until 4 months ago. Hmmm...right when I started working at this school...) Plus we all know the male teachers are drinking daily (the old female ones too). So this is why they brush their teeth 20x a day.
I was told to "...remove your feelings and emotions from the classroom and to care about the integrity of teaching." If you guys have seen what I have seen the past 4 months, you too would agree that this is the most hypocritical statement I have ever heard about education in Korea.
The exit plan:
Well winter break is coming up, and through no fault of my own I have a lot of vacation time owed to me and signed off on [sorry guys, no desk warming for me!]. I might as well use it, pass go, and collect 2 free paychecks. I'm gonna apply for March jobs now I'm going to Japan for Christmas so I plan on getting my CBC there. I know I won't get a LOR so hopefully when I go to Singapore in Feb. I can do my interview and get my visa there.
If I get the timing right, I will turn in my resignation before going to Singapore for 2 weeks, come back, move into my new place, and screw the school over with no NET right when the school year starts.
Anyone see a problem with the exit plan?
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like a plan. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Turn off the lights when you leave. |
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grandpa
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Quitting - the exit plan... |
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If you do that exit plan, then those at your school will feel like they were right all along.
Give 2 months notice before Winter Break, and then look for a job starting March 1st. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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I would just teach the way you want to and ignore their complaints. If you have plans to leave, then it won't be a surprise if they fire you. |
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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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@grandpa
Why would I wait 'til March to find a job? I want to be working in a new job in March.
Some teachers secretly have my back, so I know if some can admit the problems with the abysmal school, allow of them know it. I don't anyone could last here as long as I did. Another teacher will eventually come and leave early, and at that time, even though I won't be here, I will be right. They'll be lucky to even have someone like me my first 3 months here. They'll learn.
@lifeinkorea
Like I said, I will quit once I have signed a contract with a new job. This is a public school gig, they aren't gonna fire me and I'll have 30 days. plus I'll be in Singapore~.
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ReeseDog

Joined: 05 Apr 2008 Location: Classified
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Quitting - the exit plan... |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
...and screw the school over with no NET right when the school year starts.
Anyone see a problem with the exit plan?
abigolblackman |
You're setting that school's next teacher up for failure.
Yeah, there's a big hole in your plan.
That big hole is you. |
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abigolblackman
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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@ReeseDog
I'll admit it's a dick (can I say that?) move, but whoever comes here after me will fail whether I stay the full year or not.
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DrugstoreCowgirl
Joined: 08 May 2009 Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Are you by any chance working in Daegu? |
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Korussian
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: Quitting - the exit plan... |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
If I get the timing right, I will turn in my resignation before going to Singapore for 2 weeks, come back, move into my new place, and screw the school over with no NET right when the school year starts.
abigolblackman |
This message isn't necessarily meant for you, but for some of the influx of new folks who, by now, have been here for a few months and got through the honeymoon period.
I get that you're frustrated and want to stick it to the school, especially now that they've insulted your teaching abilities and care for the students. I've felt exactly the same way in previous jobs. That said, what you'd be doing here is not just a dick move, but a shining example of why foreign teachers aren't to be trusted or relied upon as professionals.
I suggest you give proper notice (as stipulated in the contract you signed), and then be on your merry way. Yes, your school may well suck, and yes, anyone else in your position may well leave too. Just do it the right way, and we'll all agree you made the right move.
I want to add that just because your Korean colleagues may (or may not) behave inappropriately at work, doesn't make it okay for you to do the same. Being late? Showing up with alcohol on your breath? Refusing to make teaching materials? There's not a lot of points there for your teacher-of-the-year award.
You're not just one guy - for better or worse, many of these kids and adults will take you as 100% representative of people of your nation, people of your skin tone, and people of your age/gender from your nation.
I take from your username that you're black. I'll bet if you pull a runner the way you're planning, most folks at your school will refuse to hire another black teacher because "black people are unreliable". Is that racist? Yes. Is that common here? Yes. Are you doing anything to change their minds? No. |
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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds like they are giving you constructive criticism. Just say �thank you� for the feed back, and modify your teaching methods by perhaps creating and implementing some games and activities to support your materials.
I hated my last job, but I stuck it out, and I am happy that I did, because I received a Statement of Employment and plus a reference letter signed by the principal. I wrote the letter myself, but he signed it and that was all it mattered to get my next gig. Getting the Statement of Employment or the LOR verifies that you have worked and completed your contract time; which will take you a long way to your next job in Korea; whether it would be public or private.
My advice to you sir is to stick it out, collect your pay, complete the contract and find another job with a LOR or Statement of Employment in your hand. Think it through clearly.
Good luck |
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SW
Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Location: Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Abigo, I think I remember reading on some other thread that you work for SMOE... am I right? I work for them, and your school sounds just like mine, only worse in degree. And if I had the cash, I'd have exited already two months ago.
I envy you. |
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OculisOrbis

Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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zipper wrote: |
I hated my last job, but I stuck it out, and I am happy that I did, because I received a Statement of Employment and plus a reference letter signed by the principal. I wrote the letter myself, but he signed it and that was all it mattered to get my next gig. Getting the Statement of Employment or the LOR verifies that you have worked and completed your contract time; which will take you a long way to your next job in Korea; whether it would be public or private.
My advice to you sir is to stick it out, collect your pay, complete the contract and find another job with a LOR or Statement of Employment in your hand. Think it through clearly.
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An LOR is only of use if you want to/are able to transfer your visa directly to a new employer - otherwise it's a waste of paper. It only saves a bit of paperwork and the time it would take to hop over to Japan and come back.
Employers are required to immediately provide a certificate of employment whenever requested by a current or former employers (less than 3 years removed) as long as the employee has worked for more than 30 days. The employer must provide only the details that the employee requests and you dont have to complete your contract or give notice of resignation to receive it. |
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youtuber
Joined: 13 Sep 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: Quitting - the exit plan... |
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abigolblackman wrote: |
The rant:
I'm quitting the $***hole.
Today came the long awaited talking too I knew I was gonna receive..
Issue 1: I'm late. Reasons they may think I'm late include stepping into class one or two minutes late or not knowing when I have class thanks to the infamous last minute change up. I of course explain all the KT are late for class, but I shouldn't worry about them [even though everyone at my school seems to care about what I do] and it's okay for them because they "apologize" to the students when they are late.
Issue 2: My lessons aren't as good as they used to be. As I said before, I teach from the book now and don't make materials. I teach exactly as the KT do. Apparently I'm doing it wrong. I should make materials (I'm not required too) and if I teach from the book I should teach only from the book and not use anything else (no games, no free conversation, etc. I don't know what's gonna happen for the next 3 weeks seeing as the book has BEEN done.)
Issue 3: After school classes. Apparently I don't try hard enough and I'm late [of course], and one student complained to his parents who complained to the school even though they have never met me let alone seen my class. After I proved to them that I am not late and that students ditch class despite me trying to catch them after school, they still told me not to be late and that the low student attendance is my fault and that I don't try [despite me trying to make a film with the students the past month, I've only gotten 1 out of 10 scripts back].
Issue 4: Stop drinking. I came into work with soju on the breath one time (2 weeks ago) and the whole school thinks I drink like a horse now (actually I do, but as long as I come to work on time [SOBER] and do my job, what's it to them. Plus I never drank this much until 4 months ago. Hmmm...right when I started working at this school...) Plus we all know the male teachers are drinking daily (the old female ones too). So this is why they brush their teeth 20x a day.
I was told to "...remove your feelings and emotions from the classroom and to care about the integrity of teaching." If you guys have seen what I have seen the past 4 months, you too would agree that this is the most hypocritical statement I have ever heard about education in Korea.
The exit plan:
Well winter break is coming up, and through no fault of my own I have a lot of vacation time owed to me and signed off on [sorry guys, no desk warming for me!]. I might as well use it, pass go, and collect 2 free paychecks. I'm gonna apply for March jobs now I'm going to Japan for Christmas so I plan on getting my CBC there. I know I won't get a LOR so hopefully when I go to Singapore in Feb. I can do my interview and get my visa there.
If I get the timing right, I will turn in my resignation before going to Singapore for 2 weeks, come back, move into my new place, and screw the school over with no NET right when the school year starts.
Anyone see a problem with the exit plan?
abigolblackman |
Uh yeah I see a problem. Why would another Korean employer hire you when you left on such bad terms? Without a letter of release, it will probably be pretty hard to get another visa don't you think? You will probably have to let this one run out the full year and then you can apply again.
And it sounds like a lot of your problems are due to being late. You will probably come in late at your next job too, and you know what? They will be pissed at you there too. It doesn't matter what the K teachers do. You aren't Korean.
And WHY would you drink soju before coming to work? You need to seriously reevaluate why you are in Korea and what you want to accomplish here. It sounds like your current school has legit concerns, so maybe you should focus on how you can improve. |
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zipper
Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Location: Ruben Carter was falsely accused
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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OculisOrbis wrote: |
An LOR is only of use if you want to/are able to transfer your visa directly to a new employer - otherwise it's a waste of paper. It only saves a bit of paperwork and the time it would take to hop over to Japan and come back.
Employers are required to immediately provide a certificate of employment whenever requested by a current or former employers (less than 3 years removed) as long as the employee has worked for more than 30 days. The employer must provide only the details that the employee requests and you dont have to complete your contract or give notice of resignation to receive it. |
I don�t know about that, but the �statement of employment� I have has helped me verify that I had completed my contract with EPIK; which was a big help when I applied for my new job; they certainly asked me for it.
What advice would you give abigolblackman? I think he needs some advice about his job situation more than he needs you telling me that a LOR is useless. You know what I mean? |
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