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Lorilou



Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Location: Osan

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Are all Korean doctors like this? Reply with quote

I've been sick since I arrived 2 weeks ago with what I think might be Avian flu. My school finally took me to the clinic yesterday. I was sitting in the small waiting room/exam room, and there were two girls that were sitting in the two exam chairs, with a table of exam instruments in between the chairs. He used them on one patient (checked inside her nose, ears and throat) and then I thought he turned around and used the same instruments on the other girl. I was also talking to my co-teacher and not paying the closest attention, so I thought I must have been mistaken. But then after he was done examining me in the same manner, I watched him turn around and examine a new patient in the other chair without disinfecting anything!

I don't want to bring this up to my co-teacher, as this doctor is a church friend of hers. But now I'm petrified I'm going to get even more sick on top of it. Is this normal in Korea????
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, every single Korean doctor in Korea is like this. All of them. From the big hospitals to the small clinics.

Rolling Eyes
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as a significant number of Korean doctors believe in fan death, I will have difficulty trusting Korean doctors.
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Lorilou



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait... fan death???
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Lorilou



Joined: 01 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Yes, every single Korean doctor in Korea is like this. All of them. From the big hospitals to the small clinics.

Rolling Eyes


I'm guessing this is sarcasm Wink I know I shouldn't assume that every single doctor is like this. The school I'm at now isn't the most sanitary by US standards-- no soap in the bathrooms, every kids shares the same two cups teathered to the water cooler, kids and teachers working with swine flu, etc... So I'm not really sure what all to expect at a clinic.

I'm just wondering if this is common practice, or if I should demand that they take me to a different clinic next time around. And btw, they took me here because they claim they can't afford to pay for my health insurance, and this doctor is a friend of the co-teacher's and seeing me for free (I have insurance that I purchased before arrival, but have to go to a hospital clinic to be covered).
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no, they're not all like this. i suggest next time you are sick you go to a hospital with or without an international clinic. either way, a hospital should be a lot better than a dodgy clinic where the doctor examines patients in front of patients.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girlfriend's GP told her not to eat wheat because it would lower her body temperature.
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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Are all Korean doctors like this? Reply with quote

Lorilou wrote:
I've been sick since I arrived 2 weeks ago with what I think might be Avian flu. My school finally took me to the clinic yesterday. I was sitting in the small waiting room/exam room, and there were two girls that were sitting in the two exam chairs, with a table of exam instruments in between the chairs. He used them on one patient (checked inside her nose, ears and throat) and then I thought he turned around and used the same instruments on the other girl. I was also talking to my co-teacher and not paying the closest attention, so I thought I must have been mistaken. But then after he was done examining me in the same manner, I watched him turn around and examine a new patient in the other chair without disinfecting anything!

I don't want to bring this up to my co-teacher, as this doctor is a church friend of hers. But now I'm petrified I'm going to get even more sick on top of it. Is this normal in Korea????


This happened at a work shop a couple of weeks ago in Chungcheongnam-do where the same ear thermometer was used on over 25 people. I've been sick ever since that day.
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Samurai Blur



Joined: 20 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lorilou wrote:
Wait... fan death???


Yes. Quite possibly in the top five dumbest urban myths I've ever heard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death
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Lorilou



Joined: 01 Sep 2009
Location: Osan

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Are all Korean doctors like this? Reply with quote

dirving wrote:


This happened at a work shop a couple of weeks ago in Chungcheongnam-do where the same ear thermometer was used on over 25 people. I've been sick ever since that day.


Yes, they use the same ear thermometer to check the kids temps here at the school every morning (of course, I didn't find this out until after the school nurse used it to check my temp one morning). After years of this, these kids must have superhuman immunities.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the level of medical care here is a touch below the west. I don't trust doctors except for the ones in the really big hospitals or international clinics.
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storysinger81



Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lorilou,

Go to a hospital, not a clinic--one associated with a reputable university or an international clinic is best. Insist that the doctor open new, sterilized instruments in front of you (they will). Smile a lot as you're making these demands.

It is utterly ridiculous to assume that every Korean doctor will use poor hygenic practices because one did. That is how racism begins.
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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

storysinger81 wrote:
Lorilou,

Go to a hospital, not a clinic--one associated with a reputable university or an international clinic is best. Insist that the doctor open new, sterilized instruments in front of you (they will). Smile a lot as you're making these demands.

It is utterly ridiculous to assume that every Korean doctor will use poor hygenic practices because one did. That is how racism begins.


My health exam on November 18th at Gongju National University Hospital involved peeing into a cup in a filthy restroom that'd make any of the toilets on Hooker Hill proud. I then had to give the urine to a Doctor who wasn't wearing rubber gloves. The cups were left uncovered on a metal stand next to blood samples.

Next, I had a dental exam in the grossest-looking clinic imaginable where the tools were not sterilised. I asked for sterile ones, but to no avail and was told to "hurry, hurry" by the District Office Co-Ordinator. She was pissed at my observations that the hospital was likely worse than any in Somalia or Sudan because she's a graduate of Gongju National University.
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While it isn't the cleanest thing to do you won't get sick from sharing an ear thermometer. Unless you start sucking on it.
If your school isn't giving you health insurance, you should be thinking twice or three times about working there.
If your school has a lot of students there should be no reason for them not to give you insurance. There is a good chance your boss is BSing you.
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whome?



Joined: 13 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

storysinger81 wrote:
Lorilou,

Go to a hospital, not a clinic--one associated with a reputable university or an international clinic is best. Insist that the doctor open new, sterilized instruments in front of you (they will). Smile a lot as you're making these demands.

It is utterly ridiculous to assume that every Korean doctor will use poor hygenic practices because one did. That is how racism begins.


Dude.... you're overstepping. She asked a question. She is new to what is likely a completely foreign country. She probably comes from a country where something like this would NEVER HAPPEN. So seeing it one time naturally and rightly makes her wonder how wide spread it is here.

Nothing to do with starting racism. What's ridiculous is thinking this has anything to do with racism.
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