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bacasper

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: Israel deports Afro-American activsts |
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Israeli authorities deport African American political activists
Press release, Al-Awda New York, 1 December 2009
Al-Awda New York condemns the racist denial of entry to Palestine of African American political activists Dhoruba Bin Wahad and Naji Mujahid by the Israeli occupation.
The occupation of Palestine has always been based on the racist theory and practice of Zionism, including the expulsion of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians and the denial of millions of Palestinian refugees' right to return home as part of building a "pure Jewish state" through the dispossession and oppression of the indigenous Palestinian Arab people.
Zionism and racism have always gone hand in hand -- the Israeli occupation regime was one of the greatest military sponsors of apartheid South Africa. US racism has sponsored and encouraged Zionist racism, made apparent in the denial of entry to Palestine, abuse, and detention of Bin Wahad and Mujahid.
On 11/23/09, Wahad, a former US political prisoner and leader of the Black Panther Party, and Mujahid, a student activist from Washington DC rode tourist bus en route from Amman, Jordan to the West Bank to attend the International Conference on Palestinian Political Prisoners in Jericho.
As the bus crossed the bridge, it stopped for a border inspection by Israeli occupation officers. Of the numerous individuals on the bus, only Dhoruba and Naji, the only Black people on the bus, were ordered to disembark.
The border officers searched Dhoruba's name on the Internet as the rest of the tourists passed without incident. They discovered he is Muslim, a former Black Panther leader and spent 19 years in prison for a crime he did not commit. Both Dhoruba and Naji were interrogated, strip searched and their property confiscated and searched. Despite their cooperation and offer to return into Jordan, their detention continued for over 12 hours. They were ultimately released but denied permission to enter occupied Palestine and returned to Jordan.
Their would be outrageous if it occurred to anyone, and echoes the ongoing abuse of Palestinians and Arabs seeking to enter Palestine and the drive to push Palestinians and Arabs to leave their homeland through settlement, land confiscation, checkpoints, the Israelization of Jerusalem, discrimination, and laws targeting Palestinians in occupied Palestine '48. As Mujahid himself stated, "the humiliation and frustration we endured was a small taste of what we can be sure the Palestinians go through daily."
This incident occurred as a clear manifestation of Zionist racism. Dhoruba and Naji were ordered off the bus before Israeli border officials had any idea of their country of origin, personal histories, or plans. At the time they were targeted, the occupation officers knew only they were Black. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:33 am Post subject: |
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When I see the world racism now I immediately think "weak argument".
Anyways, are these two muslim-named African Americans members of the NOI? Maybe the muslim wing of the New Black Panthers?
And what the hell are you doing reading electronicinfatada.net? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: |
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Reading the article, one of the two is from the new black panthers.
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On 23 November 2009, Dhoruba Bin Wahad, a former US political prisoner and leader of the Black Panther Party, and Naji Mujahid, a student activist from Washington DC |
A quick wiki:
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Members have referred to "bloodsucking Jews", and Khalid Abdul Muhammad has blamed slavery and even the Holocaust on the "hooked-nose, bagel-eating, lox-eating, perpetrating-a-fraud, so-called Jew". |
I reckon Israel is justified in limiting the travel of people who belong to the NBP. |
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Kimbop

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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Absolute non-story. A biased, selective article written by fascists; read by fools. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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The key message here is that Zionism is hypocrisy. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:31 am Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
When I see the world racism now I immediately think "weak argument". |
Some people do continue to treat others differently based on perceived race. Sorry if you have lost your ability to judge.
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Anyways, are these two muslim-named African Americans members of the NOI? Maybe the muslim wing of the New Black Panthers? |
The article says one is Muslim and an OLD Panther. So what?
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And what the hell are you doing reading electronicinfatada.net? |
I get my information from a wide variety of sources. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Some people do continue to treat others differently based on perceived race. Sorry if you have lost your ability to judge. |
Yes, there are actual racists, like the New Black Panthers etc.
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The article says one is Muslim and an OLD Panther. So what? |
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On 23 November 2009, Dhoruba Bin Wahad, a former US political prisoner and leader of the Black Panther Party |
My reading of that is that he is a former prisoner and current leader. No? Even if not, the so what is that the NBP is an actual racist organization. So, pot/kettle New Black etc.
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I get my information from a wide variety of sources. |
As do I. There are degrees of garbage, though. I'm not a fan of the NYT but that doesn't mean that I'm going to put it on equal footing with a muslim propaganda site. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:03 am Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
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The article says one is Muslim and an OLD Panther. So what? |
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On 23 November 2009, Dhoruba Bin Wahad, a former US political prisoner and leader of the Black Panther Party |
My reading of that is that he is a former prisoner and current leader. No? Even if not, the so what is that the NBP is an actual racist organization. So, pot/kettle New Black etc. |
I read it as former. If it were current, wouldn't it say New BPs?
Fact remains, the Israelis knew nothing about the pair at the time they were ordered off the bus except that they were black. |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Related:
Jews Against Zionism
Posted: 2009/12/07
From: Mathaba
by Stephen Lendman
They're numerous, outspoken, and range from secular to orthodox to one group calling itself "True Torah Jews Against Zionism."
They believe that "traditional" Jews don't support Zionism, an ideology they call "contrary to Jewish law and beliefs and the teachings of the Holy Torah." They say Zionism:
-- advocates "a political and military end to the Jewish exile;"
-- fosters "pseudo-Judaism" based on secular nationalism;
-- coercively seeks "armed materialism" in place of "a Divine and Torah centered understanding;"
-- endangers all Jews worldwide;
-- wants to disassociate Jews and traditional Judaism from ideological Zionism; and
-- calls Israel a "Zionist State," not a Jewish one.
They:
-- cite their concern for "peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state" and in Occupied Palestine;
-- say from ancient times until 100 years ago, Jews and Arabs lived in peace and friendship until Zionism changed the relationship;
-- believe Zionists abandoned the Torah and traditional Judaism, demanded political sovereignty over the Holy Land, and aroused anger in the Arab world; and
-- Torah Jewry doesn't recognize or support a Zionist state; nor do they represent world Jews; even the name "Israel" is a "forgery," they believe, because the Torah forbids violence in the words of the prophet Isaiah who said:
"And they will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. No nation will lift its sword against any other, nor will they learn warfare anymore."
Toray Jewry says that believing Zionism protects Jews is "probably the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the Jewish People" and accuses Zionists of fostering global anti-Semitism. "Indeed, hatred of Jews and Jewish suffering is the oxygen of the Zionist movement, and from the very beginning has been (used) to deliberately incite hatred to justify the existence of the Zionist state - this is, of course, Machiavellianism raised to the highest order."
Zionist founder Theodor Herzl (1860 - 1904) said:*
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It is essential that the suffering of Jews....becomes worse....this will assist in (the) realization of our plans....I have an excellent idea....I shall induce anti-semites to liquidate Jewish wealth....The anti-semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-semites shall be our best friends. |
*Ralph Schoenman in The Hidden History of Zionism details in Chapter Six how Zionists collaborated with the Nazis to maximize the number of Jewish victims and hence support for the state which they in their desperate thirst for power so desired. |
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mises
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:21 am Post subject: |
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I read it as former. If it were current, wouldn't it say New BPs? |
Yeah, maybe. Either way it speaks loudly to his character. Israel has to worry about such things.
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Fact remains, the Israelis knew nothing about the pair at the time they were ordered off the bus except that they were black. |
You don't know that. The Israelis widely known to have an ear to the ground. |
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Sergio Stefanuto
Joined: 14 May 2009 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
Some people do continue to treat others differently based on perceived race. Sorry if you have lost your ability to judge. |
You mean like posting again and again about Israel yet never saying a word about far greater records of inhumanity? (say, that done by the Sudanese)
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Fact remains, the Israelis knew nothing about the pair at the time they were ordered off the bus except that they were black. |
And where has this been independently corroborated as "a fact"? All we've got is the testimony of some highly dubious characters from a source named Al-Awda New York, the Palestine Right to Return Coalition.
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Related:
Jews Against Zionism |
Other than in the sole, vague respect that it concerns Israel and Jews, how is that "related"? |
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bacasper

Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Sergio Stefanuto wrote: |
bacasper wrote: |
Some people do continue to treat others differently based on perceived race. Sorry if you have lost your ability to judge. |
You mean like posting again and again about Israel yet never saying a word about far greater records of inhumanity? (say, that done by the Sudanese) |
Just how do you grade these "records of inhumanity"? Because there are not too many greater than Israel's.
Anyway, while I appreciate your esteeming me as poster-in-chief of all these "records of inhumanity," no one is stopping you from posting such concerns. I now anxiously await to read tons of posts about The Sudan's "records of inhumanity."
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bacasper wrote: |
Fact remains, the Israelis knew nothing about the pair at the time they were ordered off the bus except that they were black. |
And where has this been independently corroborated as "a fact"? All we've got is the testimony of some highly dubious characters from a source named Al-Awda New York, the Palestine Right to Return Coalition. |
I am not a journalist in your employ. If you've got refutation, by all means post it instead of just calling people names. Some things I post I want to see refuted.
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bacasper wrote: |
Related:
Jews Against Zionism |
Other than in the sole, vague respect that it concerns Israel and Jews, how is that "related"? |
It is related in its anti-racist "concern for 'peace and safety of all people throughout the world including those living in the Zionist state.'" |
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TheUrbanMyth
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
I am not a journalist in your employ. If you've got refutation, by all means post it instead of just calling people names. Some things I post I want to see refuted.
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Are we supposed to guess what things you want refuted and what you don't?
Anyway SS is correct. It is not a fact that the Israelis knew nothing about the pair except that they were black. It is even an unlikely assumption given that Mossad has one of the best reputations for gathering information in the business. Who's to say they weren't on them from day one when they entered the country? |
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bacasper

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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
bacasper wrote: |
I am not a journalist in your employ. If you've got refutation, by all means post it instead of just calling people names. Some things I post I want to see refuted.
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Are we supposed to guess what things you want refuted and what you don't?
Anyway SS is correct. It is not a fact that the Israelis knew nothing about the pair except that they were black. It is even an unlikely assumption given that Mossad has one of the best reputations for gathering information in the business. Who's to say they weren't on them from day one when they entered the country? |
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