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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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 Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: new visa MUST be in Canada - 2-day overstay in 2004 |
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What???? I am too livid to search this one. Someone recall if dave's has covered it.
My director told me my return airflight in 2004 two days later was okay and naive me took him at his word and of course wasn't okay. immigration made me sign a paper saying i wouldn't do such a thing again.
then in 2006 i changed employers, got a new work visa no problem from korea.
then in 2009 i changed employers and got a new work visa no problem from korea
(then i tried to quit and was then fired from that 2009 job and work visa was cancelled and i left the country and came back on a tourist visa and now, now have a good new job lined up and whammo:
suddenly i cannot go to fukuoka ob a visa run, i MUST return to canada and apply for a work visa from there because of the 2-day overstay in 2004 !!!!!!!!!!????????????????!!!!!!! |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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my to-be director just told me that the local immi office could help and issue the work visa number but that the embassy in fukuoka wouldn't honour it, would be obligated to tell me to return to canada to apply, due to new legislation
arrggghhhhh
now the question is whether i just need to do the visa number, stamp thing in canada... or whether i need to re-submit my diploma and other paperwork wholesale (i'm sure korean immi has opened my sealed transcripts) |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Are they saying you need a face to face interview? Can't you mail this stuff in? It may need a Canadian address. If so, have a friend or family member do it and then mail it to you. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like they are trying to pull every trick they can out of their arse en holes to drive good teachers away from Korea.
Sorry to hear about your situation and I hope it works out for you. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| lifeinkorea wrote: |
| Are they saying you need a face to face interview? |
interview i dunno
but to get an e-2 work visa one has to leave korea (usually a nearby country kile japan will do) and get the work visa stamp on your passport at a korean embassy
it seems i have to go back to canada to get the work visa - whetther that means face to face interview or just paperwork done abroad i dunno
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| Can't you mail this stuff in? It may need a Canadian address. If so, have a friend of family member do it and then mail it to you. |
uh,... i don't think that ever works - to get any work visa one has to be at the embassy oneself |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| lifeinkorea wrote: |
| Can't you mail this stuff in? |
 i feel like just mailing it in ... at the moment pun *beep* intended |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
| Sounds like they are trying to pull every trick they can out of their arse en holes to drive good teachers away from Korea. |
the kicker is: i overstayed because i had changed flights to go to new zealand to get a CELTA in between contracts instead of back home at the end of 2004
A HUGE DOSE OF IRONY: because of actions intended to make myself a better teacher i have become the victim of korean legislation intended to weed out the worse teachers (by making it harder for lawbreakers)
| some waygug-in wrote: |
| Sorry to hear about your situation and I hope it works out for you. |
THANKS. i've got a car i've invested ten million in and would be lucky to get half that back, a book about korean beaches i've started to write and spent hundreds of hours researching already with much more to go, and everything i own in the world is in korea, all making it highly unlikely i'm gonna opt elsewhere when i decided last year to commit myself to another 3 to 4 years here
arrghhhhh
(my biggest fear is what obstacle i'll face after i dump two million won on a flight and hotel expense to vancouver - if i had some confidence that this is just a logistics issue then i'd gladly lump the time and money expense, but my spidey sense is tingling and i fear the problems aren't over yet ---- the hagwon director at the job i quit/was fired at this year said he wanted to kill me and said he badmouthed me to immi and i wonder if there's some unmentioned note at root here, that another excuse will be used to deny me a work visa, or add extra obstacles, require more paperwork, etc. make my life a living hell) |
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Xuanzang
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| You need to slide the local Kimmigration a white envelope or apple box. Someone should be able to fix this for you. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You need to slide the local Kimmigration a white envelope or apple box. Someone should be able to fix this for you. |
the local kimmi is willing to play ball with the director - it's the korean embassy in fukuoka or any other country that's the problem - to get an e-2 visa one has to leave korea and get a stamp at the korean embassy abroad, and they won't do it - must go back to canada |
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dirving
Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Xuanzang wrote: |
| You need to slide the local Kimmigration a white envelope or apple box. Someone should be able to fix this for you. |
the local kimmi is willing to play ball with the director - it's the korean embassy in fukuoka or any other country that's the problem - to get an e-2 visa one has to leave korea and get a stamp at the korean embassy abroad, and they won't do it - must go back to canada |
Are you absolutely sure that the consulate in, say, Osaka or Taipei or Bangkok sould not issue a visa to you? If not, try calling them and ask them to do it.
You, too, had a boss who wanted you dead. Geez. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| dirving wrote: |
| Are you absolutely sure that the consulate in, say, Osaka or Taipei or Bangkok sould not issue a visa to you? If not, try calling them and ask them to do it. |
that was my first thought  relying on good ol' korean law inconsistently applied... am tempted to just do a trip to bangkok and try it out
((((especially since i cannot seem to get any flights to vancouver returning when i need to!!)))
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| You, too, had a boss who wanted you dead. Geez. |
the guy twice told me he would commit suicide if his girlfriend left him as she spoke of doing; he was on antideppressant medication; he didnt sleep at all some nights; he was my friend before i gave notice because i couldn't handle the workplace problems, thereafter he refused to accept the notice, fired me and blamed me for his failing hagwon, it's all my fault, saying he warned immi about me, saying he'd kill me if he had a gun and could get away with it (i actually have that in an email from him)
before that, three years at each of two wonderful hagwons, mom&pop sensible downtoearth family people
two great references and a psycho
and i fear immi might have some note on file from the psycho (if so should i have past good directors write glowing recommendations and have it submitted to immi on my behalf? ... or, as it seems on the surface, just go back to canada and get the work visa process there - assuming no other problem surfaces |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
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| Can't you mail this stuff in? It may need a Canadian address. If so, have a friend of family member do it and then mail it to you. |
uh,... i don't think that ever works - to get any work visa one has to be at the embassy oneself |
I got my first visa in the mail. I mailed my passport to the Korean consulate in Vancouver and they mailed it back with my visa inside. This was the same week they introduced the interview requirement and I was supposed to have one, but I called every day and begged them to just put it through because Vancouver was 1000km away I don't have time to go there and still start my job on time pleeeeease let me have the visa.
Don't think that would work if your passport currently says you are in Korea though, even if you have a Canadian address to send it to. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Can't you do a skype interview? I thought I read somewhere they were allowing those to people who lived too far away from the embassy in Vancouver or Toronto.
Anyway, just a thought. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:30 am Post subject: |
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This is not new. It has been covered on Dave's before.
I knew a guy at my last job who was fired before he even started work at my hogwan because of this problem. He also overstayed his visa at some point in the past. It had not been a problem for him before. But that time he had to go back to England if he wanted to get a new visa. My hogwan didn't want to pay for the return flight so he was out of luck.
Around the time that immigration started asking for medical checks and criminal background checks, they also changed the rules for people who had broken immigration laws at anytime in the past. So now anyone who has overstayed their visa without permission at any time in the past has to go back to their home country to get a new visa for a new job. As you said, you can still get a visa issuance number and all that stuff, but any third party country will reject your visa application. It will be a wasted trip if you go to Japan.
I guess the whole idea is that the inconvenience of having to go back to your home country is part of your punishment for breaking their laws.
I've never heard of anyone being able to get around this problem. It sucks, but what can you do? |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:44 am Post subject: |
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This doesn't seem right to me, VanIslander. If immi give you a visa issuance number, I don't think the Korean Consulate in Fukuoka will deny you. I'd just apply for the visa here and continue on like they said nothing. But I guess I could be wrong.
Why would they give you a visa issuance number only to have the Korean Consulate deny you? That's screwed up.
Come to think of it, one time when getting a work visa in Fukuoka there was a guy who was refused because it was his first visa and was told he had to go back to Canada to apply. His employer had sent him to Fukuoka from Korea. So he must've been given a visa issuance number.
That's just messed up. |
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