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Koreans came from South-East Asia
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Forever



Joined: 12 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:33 am    Post subject: Koreans came from South-East Asia Reply with quote

Interesting.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/12/12/200912120027.asp

I always thought they came from the lakes above Mongolia in Siberia.

However - new genetic research seems to claim they migrated up from South-East Asia through India into China, Korea and Japan.
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santafly



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't look at the article but I would find this awfully hard to believe as it contradicts all of the commonly accepted theories on human migration.
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Sadebugo1



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

santafly wrote:
I didn't look at the article but I would find this awfully hard to believe as it contradicts all of the commonly accepted theories on human migration.


This will cause a lot of angst in genetic-superiority circles!

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whome?



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm just saw that this was updated and I guess my post was deleted or something....

Anyway, I criticized the first person to respond for commenting while at the same time admitting they hadn;t even read the article.

I posted the article in question, but you need a Science membership to access it, so that doesn't do anyone any good, unless you also have a membership (no, you may not use mine).

But yes, this only further renders the idea of 'pure blood' even more ridiculous, and yet also disturbing that it would continue to be uttered as often as it is, despite the overwhelming evidence against it.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this still accommodates the 'Danguen' legend anyway.
The 'coastal migration' theory does have some good things going for it though.
Seeing that Korea wants to get closer to India as counter to China,
this new paradigm may gain some favour in Korea.

Can you tell us what your article said in a few sentences?
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8406506.stm
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hogwash. It only takes one generation to change half one's genes.

Linguistically, the Korean language came from the Urals in the far northwest of Asia, so those who brought it were *beep* countless times wth the locals that were on the peninsula already, integrating South Pacific Islanders who wandered this way, and certainly they were *beep* by the Chinese, Mongolian and Japanese. A couple of generations of that alone and one's genetics is royally changed. Culture, and particularly language, is much slower to change and a greater indicator of pre-history.
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greekvvedge



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Koreans are a combination of Altaic people from Lake Baikal in Siberia, mixed with maritime fishing people from South China and South East Asia in the Neolithic, I guess. The South Asian influence becomes less pronounced if you travel North.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2008/11/mtdna-of-ancient-koreans.html
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Unposter



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we go back far enough, aren't all our ancestors African? If you believe this theory then eventually human ancestors radiated out of Africa and eventually found their way to Asia and the far corners of the globe.
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NoSimpleHighway



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this would explain the complete lack of tolerance to cold weather. Chu we yo! Chu we yo! CHU WE YO! When its 10C out. My classroom is kept at 27 C all winter - about the average annual temp in SE Asia.
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Sadebugo1



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
Hogwash. It only takes one generation to change half one's genes.

Linguistically, the Korean language came from the Urals in the far northwest of Asia, so those who brought it were *beep* countless times wth the locals that were on the peninsula already, integrating South Pacific Islanders who wandered this way, and certainly they were *beep* by the Chinese, Mongolian and Japanese. A couple of generations of that alone and one's genetics is royally changed. Culture, and particularly language, is much slower to change and a greater indicator of pre-history.


What percentage of the language's vocabulary originates from the Chinese language? I've heard it's a high percentage but never saw statistics concerning this in Korea--surprise!!!

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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roughly 60% come from Chinese. In fact every syllable in the official name of the country, 대한민국, comes from Chinese--大韩民國.

But as we all the know, China very dirty China person don't wash China food very gleasy.

source: http://books.google.com/books?id=Sx6gdJIOcoQC&pg=RA1-PA12&lpg=RA1-PA12&source=web&ots=qlRSnc3WjG&sig=MlizCGZ6Yl15BHG2fBFrlRoh95I#v=onepage&q=&f=false
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans come from a bear that was turned into a woman. Her first son, Tangun, founded the Korean nation in 2333BC.
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SHANE02



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
Koreans come from a bear that was turned into a woman. Her first son, Tangun, founded the Korean nation in 2333BC.


ahhh...thanks for that....

Wasn't garlic used somehow. Garlic is not native to Korea, but I thought the bear ate it or something.
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mc_jc



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the article[s] historically fascinating.

I believe that this could cause an uproar among Koreans who want to be genetically related to those from the Ural steppes historically instead of from the South Pacific because that would put Koreans in the same genetic relationship with the Philippines, Indonesia and Vietnam- countries Korea looks down upon.
I agree that such a scientific hypothesis, if proven factual, would have many Koreans questioning their genetic superiority over other "lesser" neighboring countries.
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