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SeoulMan6



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: PhD at HUFS? Reply with quote

Anyone here done a PhD at HUFS? I'd love to hear about your experience there.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see the point in doing a Ph.D. at any Korean university unless you're major is Korean Studies. The graduate schools of international studies do a fantastic job prepping people for Ph.D. programs in a load of diciplines, but I think that's as far as I'd take it. Actually, that IS as far as I took it!

I did my Master's in Korea, but my Ph.D. in the US. There were a couple of reasons: 1) my major was not Korean/Asian studies, and 2) my wife is Korean. There was a chance that I would be working in Korea, and Korean universities generally don't hire tenure track Ph.D.s if the terminal degree is from a Korean institution. The one exception that I could think of would be if there were a world-class Korean scholar (or non-Korean scholar at a Korean university) and you wanted to work under them. Then maybe I could see doing the Ph.D. in Korea, especially if that prof had enough umph to help your career along.

But, in general, if you're going to go for it in Korea, then look into SNU, Yonsei, or Korea University; at least they have some international recognition and affiliations.

Just my 2 cents.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Besides the SKY universities, I think that KAIST, Sungkyunkwan, and Ewha Women's University are all worth considering.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point, but, again, I'd recommend them for someone looking to do their Master's degree, not their Ph.D. There's a tight market for jobs in academia, so the better your degree, the better your odds on getting a decent long-term job.

But, hey, some people want to get a Ph.D. just to say they have one! In that case, does it really matter where you do it? Hmmm. Come to think of it, one of the first questions they'll ask you if you apply for a doctoral program is why you want the degree to begin with. So I guess some do think it really matters where you do your degree.

At any rate, if you're in Korea for the long haul and just want to keep studying, then best to you.
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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
I can't see the point in doing a Ph.D. at any Korean university unless you're major is Korean Studies. The graduate schools of international studies do a fantastic job prepping people for Ph.D. programs in a load of diciplines, but I think that's as far as I'd take it. Actually, that IS as far as I took it!

I did my Master's in Korea, but my Ph.D. in the US. There were a couple of reasons: 1) my major was not Korean/Asian studies, and 2) my wife is Korean. There was a chance that I would be working in Korea, and Korean universities generally don't hire tenure track Ph.D.s if the terminal degree is from a Korean institution. The one exception that I could think of would be if there were a world-class Korean scholar (or non-Korean scholar at a Korean university) and you wanted to work under them. Then maybe I could see doing the Ph.D. in Korea, especially if that prof had enough umph to help your career along.

But, in general, if you're going to go for it in Korea, then look into SNU, Yonsei, or Korea University; at least they have some international recognition and affiliations.

Just my 2 cents.


There are subjects besides Korean studies at which Korean Universities excel at - Linguistics is one of them. Korean linguists are well recognized internationally, especially when it comes to generative linguistics. So, if you're thinking about doing doctoral work in linguistics/applied linguistics definitely consider Korean universities, because chances are that you'll be able to secure a top ranked academic as a supervisor. Besides which, Korean universities tend to be generous with their scholarships/fellowships, where unis in the west tend to highly selective when awarding scholarships.
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Thiuda



Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PRagic wrote:
Good point, but, again, I'd recommend them for someone looking to do their Master's degree, not their Ph.D. There's a tight market for jobs in academia, so the better your degree, the better your odds on getting a decent long-term job.


It is possible to do a joint PhD (Cotutelle PhD), where one is enrolled at two institutions simultaneously and spends one's time divided equally between the two institutions. At the end of a joint PhD one ends up with two PhDs, one from each institution. This is especially helpful if one's subject populations reside in one country and the expertise one is seeking in another. If, for example, a researcher is carrying out work with Korean English learners, but the supervisor one wishes to work with is at an Australian university, then it would be advisable to so a cotutelle PhD. Of course, in the case of Korea, one also circumvents the aversion Korean universities have when it come to hiring one of their own graduates, while benefiting from the excellent programs Korean universities do offer. The prerequisite for this type of PhD is that one is admitted separately to two PhD programs, both of which are funded.
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Seoul'n'Corea



Joined: 06 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thiuda wrote:
PRagic wrote:
I can't see the point in doing a Ph.D. at any Korean university unless you're major is Korean Studies. The graduate schools of international studies do a fantastic job prepping people for Ph.D. programs in a load of diciplines, but I think that's as far as I'd take it. Actually, that IS as far as I took it!

I did my Master's in Korea, but my Ph.D. in the US. There were a couple of reasons: 1) my major was not Korean/Asian studies, and 2) my wife is Korean. There was a chance that I would be working in Korea, and Korean universities generally don't hire tenure track Ph.D.s if the terminal degree is from a Korean institution. The one exception that I could think of would be if there were a world-class Korean scholar (or non-Korean scholar at a Korean university) and you wanted to work under them. Then maybe I could see doing the Ph.D. in Korea, especially if that prof had enough umph to help your career along.

But, in general, if you're going to go for it in Korea, then look into SNU, Yonsei, or Korea University; at least they have some international recognition and affiliations.

Just my 2 cents.


There are subjects besides Korean studies at which Korean Universities excel at - Linguistics is one of them. Korean linguists are well recognized internationally, especially when it comes to generative linguistics. So, if you're thinking about doing doctoral work in linguistics/applied linguistics definitely consider Korean universities, because chances are that you'll be able to secure a top ranked academic as a supervisor. Besides which, Korean universities tend to be generous with their scholarships/fellowships, where unis in the west tend to highly selective when awarding scholarships.


Do tell? Korea excels at linguistics. Could of fooled me.
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