Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Unbelievable sight
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like 10 minutes late on that response.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinramyun wrote:
Act like an Italian, mind your own damn business.


Or New York'n Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
economicmayhem



Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Location: Yong In

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BoholDiver wrote:
Lovely.

I agree that getting involved is bad for me, but it's stupid that a Korean man thinks it's okay to beat up a handicapped man. I wonder, does he kick babies and little dogs too?


Don't ask questions you don't want to hear answers to.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
TK421



Joined: 05 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Face it, you don't want to get involved because you are afraid of what will happen to you if you do. Therefore, you're more concerned about yourself than anybody else. Which is the definition of selfishness, is it not? It's also natural, I suppose.

This isn't directed at you, OP. It's just directed at people who refuse to get involved in situations in fear of possible consequences to themselves. What happened to putting others before yourself?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the people saying you should have gotten involved obviously don't understand the consequences of a foreigner getting involved.

Stay out of it, the law and society is set up against you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
All the people saying you should have gotten involved obviously don't understand the consequences of a foreigner getting involved.

Stay out of it, the law and society is set up against you.


That may be true..possibly.. but not so far in my experience.I've intervened a couple of times without any adverse consequences to myself. The key is ...to not hang around too long.

I would never intervene in the case of 2 men fighting.They deserve eachother. Only if its a guy beating up a woman.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're confident that neither guy could actually hurt you, shame them. Stand five feet away from them, get into their comfort zone, get real close and drone 하지마세요 like a robot, repeatedly. We're in the shame part of the globe use it to your advantage.

If it's just some drunk he might turn the bluster crap on you but I'd bet dollars to donuts somebody will step in if it's a foreigner getting attacked. Your average Korean on the street will usually treat a foreigner with more concern than a fellow Korean, rightly or wrongly.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I felt no danger from the old guy. I could have choked him out in about 5 seconds. He also exposed himself when he got on top of the other guy. I really wanted to give him a running punt to the face, but that'd be a jail cell for me.

I once read in a book about culture that Koreans will stop fighting if they see a foreigner around. I have witnessed more than a dozen fights and that has never happened.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

abigolblackman, you're talking about Diffusion of Responsibility. Anyway, I think OP did the right thing for himself. A foreigner getting involved with the best of intentions only ends up biting him in the ass.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right thing for myself. Maybe not for the disabled guy.



fermentation wrote:
abigolblackman, you're talking about Diffusion of Responsibility. Anyway, I think OP did the right thing for himself. A foreigner getting involved with the best of intentions only ends up biting him in the ass.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of last week's teacher's party. PE coach (40'a) slapped the the English teacher (60's) flat onto the floor. Next day he came in with neck brace. One of those times I wish I had had my camera.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Yahoo Messenger
ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pull out your cell-phone and start filming. If they feel no shame about fighting in public then perhaps going viral on youtube is needed.

You could also applaud, confuses the hell out of them. Telling them to stop gets you nowhere, even the police fail on that one.

If you find yourself in a situation yourself where people are not helping you, pick one person and scream at them for help. This breaks the chain of everyone waiting for someone else to do something.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PigeonFart



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You did the right thing by not intervening. The korean onlookers did the WRONG thing by not intervening.

It angers me that they've got very little civic duty in their mindset....probably all that confusion bollocks. That's why i now perversely like seeing them hurt each other. They've given me very little hope for humanity, so let them destroy each other. Terrible as it is to say that. Sad
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PigeonFart wrote:
You did the right thing by not intervening. The korean onlookers did the WRONG thing by not intervening.

It angers me that they've got very little civic duty in their mindset....probably all that confusion bollocks. That's why i now perversely like seeing them hurt each other. They've given me very little hope for humanity, so let them destroy each other. Terrible as it is to say that. Sad


I think the Koreans have a fair enough sense of civic duty given the low rate of violent crime relative to our country back home.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
Location: Got out! olleh!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
PigeonFart wrote:
You did the right thing by not intervening. The korean onlookers did the WRONG thing by not intervening.

It angers me that they've got very little civic duty in their mindset....probably all that confusion bollocks. That's why i now perversely like seeing them hurt each other. They've given me very little hope for humanity, so let them destroy each other. Terrible as it is to say that. Sad


I think the Koreans have a fair enough sense of civic duty given the low rate of violent crime relative to our country back home.


The lack of crime is based on the pervasiveness of shame, not civic duty.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International