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nosmallplans

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: noksapyeong
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Like 10 minutes late on that response. |
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red_devil

Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Location: Korea
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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shinramyun wrote: |
Act like an Italian, mind your own damn business. |
Or New York'n  |
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economicmayhem
Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Location: Yong In
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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BoholDiver wrote: |
Lovely.
I agree that getting involved is bad for me, but it's stupid that a Korean man thinks it's okay to beat up a handicapped man. I wonder, does he kick babies and little dogs too? |
Don't ask questions you don't want to hear answers to. |
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TK421
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Face it, you don't want to get involved because you are afraid of what will happen to you if you do. Therefore, you're more concerned about yourself than anybody else. Which is the definition of selfishness, is it not? It's also natural, I suppose.
This isn't directed at you, OP. It's just directed at people who refuse to get involved in situations in fear of possible consequences to themselves. What happened to putting others before yourself? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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All the people saying you should have gotten involved obviously don't understand the consequences of a foreigner getting involved.
Stay out of it, the law and society is set up against you. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:47 am Post subject: |
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Bibbitybop wrote: |
All the people saying you should have gotten involved obviously don't understand the consequences of a foreigner getting involved.
Stay out of it, the law and society is set up against you. |
That may be true..possibly.. but not so far in my experience.I've intervened a couple of times without any adverse consequences to myself. The key is ...to not hang around too long.
I would never intervene in the case of 2 men fighting.They deserve eachother. Only if its a guy beating up a woman. |
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Old Gil

Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Location: Got out! olleh!
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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If you're confident that neither guy could actually hurt you, shame them. Stand five feet away from them, get into their comfort zone, get real close and drone 하지마세요 like a robot, repeatedly. We're in the shame part of the globe use it to your advantage.
If it's just some drunk he might turn the bluster crap on you but I'd bet dollars to donuts somebody will step in if it's a foreigner getting attacked. Your average Korean on the street will usually treat a foreigner with more concern than a fellow Korean, rightly or wrongly. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:22 am Post subject: |
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I felt no danger from the old guy. I could have choked him out in about 5 seconds. He also exposed himself when he got on top of the other guy. I really wanted to give him a running punt to the face, but that'd be a jail cell for me.
I once read in a book about culture that Koreans will stop fighting if they see a foreigner around. I have witnessed more than a dozen fights and that has never happened. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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abigolblackman, you're talking about Diffusion of Responsibility. Anyway, I think OP did the right thing for himself. A foreigner getting involved with the best of intentions only ends up biting him in the ass. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Right thing for myself. Maybe not for the disabled guy.
fermentation wrote: |
abigolblackman, you're talking about Diffusion of Responsibility. Anyway, I think OP did the right thing for himself. A foreigner getting involved with the best of intentions only ends up biting him in the ass. |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:28 am Post subject: |
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Reminds me of last week's teacher's party. PE coach (40'a) slapped the the English teacher (60's) flat onto the floor. Next day he came in with neck brace. One of those times I wish I had had my camera. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Pull out your cell-phone and start filming. If they feel no shame about fighting in public then perhaps going viral on youtube is needed.
You could also applaud, confuses the hell out of them. Telling them to stop gets you nowhere, even the police fail on that one.
If you find yourself in a situation yourself where people are not helping you, pick one person and scream at them for help. This breaks the chain of everyone waiting for someone else to do something. |
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PigeonFart
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:20 am Post subject: |
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You did the right thing by not intervening. The korean onlookers did the WRONG thing by not intervening.
It angers me that they've got very little civic duty in their mindset....probably all that confusion bollocks. That's why i now perversely like seeing them hurt each other. They've given me very little hope for humanity, so let them destroy each other. Terrible as it is to say that.  |
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Steelrails

Joined: 12 Mar 2009 Location: Earth, Solar System
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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PigeonFart wrote: |
You did the right thing by not intervening. The korean onlookers did the WRONG thing by not intervening.
It angers me that they've got very little civic duty in their mindset....probably all that confusion bollocks. That's why i now perversely like seeing them hurt each other. They've given me very little hope for humanity, so let them destroy each other. Terrible as it is to say that.  |
I think the Koreans have a fair enough sense of civic duty given the low rate of violent crime relative to our country back home. |
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Old Gil

Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Location: Got out! olleh!
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Steelrails wrote: |
PigeonFart wrote: |
You did the right thing by not intervening. The korean onlookers did the WRONG thing by not intervening.
It angers me that they've got very little civic duty in their mindset....probably all that confusion bollocks. That's why i now perversely like seeing them hurt each other. They've given me very little hope for humanity, so let them destroy each other. Terrible as it is to say that.  |
I think the Koreans have a fair enough sense of civic duty given the low rate of violent crime relative to our country back home. |
The lack of crime is based on the pervasiveness of shame, not civic duty. |
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