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I'm over G-dragon but..I had to post this!
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
Well, that didn't last long.

How come the men get to be so graphic in their discussions of sexual exploits with women, but the women can't discuss the hypothetical with a celebrity?


How far did it go before they deleted it? I just remember that I said he made love like a rabbit. That was the last I saw of it. What did others say?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know about others, but here is what the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Family Affairs is saying:
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"If Kwon's act is proven to be in violation of Criminal Law Clause No. 245, which bans obscene performances, he and/or his agent could be punished," a ministry official said.


The controversy isn't just about him being lewd on stage; it's about him being lewd on stage for a concert rated for 12 and older. If the rating had been 18, the controversy would be about how much of a hack and a bad actor he is, not about how lewd he was.
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MollyBloom



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Don't know about others, but here is what the Ministry of Health, Welfare and Family Affairs is saying:
Quote:
"If Kwon's act is proven to be in violation of Criminal Law Clause No. 245, which bans obscene performances, he and/or his agent could be punished," a ministry official said.


The controversy isn't just about him being lewd on stage; it's about him being lewd on stage for a concert rated for 12 and older. If the rating had been 18, the controversy would be about how much of a hack and a bad actor he is, not about how lewd he was.


That was my point...there were children in the audience. That's why I thought it was gross. When I think about the 12 year old girls I taught...they would get so red and embarrassed in class if a boy did anything remotely physical to them, such as hugging or touching. Imagine for them, a role model, doing something like that on stage in front of them! It must have been really awkward for them.

However, I bet the older girls loved it.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
I'm no Picasso wrote:
Well, that didn't last long.

How come the men get to be so graphic in their discussions of sexual exploits with women, but the women can't discuss the hypothetical with a celebrity?


How far did it go before they deleted it? I just remember that I said he made love like a rabbit. That was the last I saw of it. What did others say?


Yours was the last I saw other than... I forget who else, maybe Draz saying that it didn't look like much of anything at all.
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with Gdragon and JYP out there stealing music from foreign artists wont be long before people catch on...

ohh well I guess thats what you have to do when are not that talented!
still there is enough music out there to steal for their life times..
copyright laws in korea??? hahahaha yeah right...
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

youtuber wrote:
I read up on the girl he "screwed" on stage.

Her name is Aimee Lucas. Some American dancing tart - because God forbid, Koreans would never act like that.

Since she is a foreigner, Korea can still remain pure and moral since it wasn't two Koreans on stage.


Yeah... because that's exactly what the 12-year-old girls are going to gather from that. That's EXACTLY what they're thinking.

Plus, that arguement is a bit flawed when you have the Brown-Eyed-Girls pulling off their shirts and having touching each in a sexual manner.
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MollyBloom



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tundra_Creature wrote:

Plus, that arguement is a bit flawed when you have the Brown-Eyed-Girls pulling off their shirts and having touching each in a sexual manner.


Good point. But they didn't do that live on stage, did they?
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Tundra_Creature



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Point taken to that, Molly.

However, there are a lot of girls who didn't see G-Dragon's concert live either, meaning that it would still technically be on T.V for us as well.

Plus (and people can smack for this if they feel like it) Aimee Lucas looks Korean. Unless the girls are doing some actual research, (which most probably aren't) they won't know that, and if they do, it's not going to be the 'Oh, well she's not Korean, so it's okay if they do that."

No, the lines will pretty much be "Oh, she's not Korean?" or "Why the hell didn't I get that part!? Damn that girl for getting to have fake, live sex with G-Dragon! I would've been perfect for the job!"

What I mean is that even if that is the producers intention (keeping korean girls pure, which is very unlikely), most kids or teens or whatever are going to catch that.

Unless they're pulling a Disney, then that's a different story. Wink
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youtuber



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I don't know who the Brown Eyes are.

But I think it is kind of weird that they flew this girl in all the way from the States just to "do it" on stage with G. There are plenty of K dancers around. Why not hire them?

And 12 year old koreans don't use the internet??? Um that's all they friggin do here! Study and computer. That's basically it.

But whatever, maybe it isn't some big conspiracy. I just had a hunch she wasn't Korean, and I was right. So maybe there is something to that.
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Tundra_Creature



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brown-Eyed-Girls are another K-pop girl group, with with a bit more of a 'sexual' look to them compared to most of the other gal groups here.

If Aimee Lucas was the only female Asian American in the business, I would maybe consider it something bigger, but she isn't. There are a lot of Korean and Asian Americans that are in the K-pop business these days.

I didn't mean that 12-year-old girls don't use the internet, I meant more would they actually care who that girl was.

Also, just looking more into Aimee Lucas, she is a dance choreographer who has worked with Big Bang recently, so that could be another reason as well.

To be honest, I think the main reason was just to stray away from the fact that G-Dragon used to do this scene solo where it looked like he was touching himself suggestively.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is this dirty, but Seung-Ri's Strong Baby is okay??? K-Logic escaping me on this one.
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MollyBloom



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
How is this dirty, but Seung-Ri's Strong Baby is okay??? K-Logic escaping me on this one.


What's that song about?
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
How is this dirty, but Seung-Ri's Strong Baby is okay??? K-Logic escaping me on this one.


What's that song about?


Sex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWDo6chK5Y
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
How is this dirty, but Seung-Ri's Strong Baby is okay??? K-Logic escaping me on this one.


What's that song about?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C-u-TYXdZg&feature=related
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
How is this dirty, but Seung-Ri's Strong Baby is okay??? K-Logic escaping me on this one.


What's that song about?


Sex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gWDo6chK5Y


Hmm. I HATE those white sneakers with suits. WTF!?
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