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The US has killed 288 000 Muslims since 1979
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Ivor



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
The USA has been killing insurgents (taliban and al queda) which have shown a lot of willingness to kill other muslims for thier religous or political reasons.


The Americans certainly killed a lot of innocent Iraqis, but unfortunately the Sunni/Shia Civil War has seen the wholesale and deliberate slaughter of innocent civilians - and there's no moral equivalence between largely accidental killing and murder. And surely all agree that murder in the belief that it yields a divine reward - involving sex - is yet more heinous still.

Such a boring topic, however.


Paying your respects to fellow humans, getting killed by your governments policies, by calling it boring? Amazing!

Don't come into the thread if you find it boring, but atleast respect the 2000 killed in 9/11 and the ensuing 2 million in trying to undo that!
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Koveras



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Reggie wrote:
The number sounds extremely low. I would bet we've killed way more than that in Iraq alone just since 1990.

What nobody ever talks about is how our enemies were able to recruit only a couple dozen Muslims from various countries to attack America, while we've been able to recruit hundreds of thousands of Christians from the USA, Britain, Poland, South Korea, and elsewhere to attack Iraq.

While people tend to complain about Muslims committing acts of violence, and rightfully so, it's clear that a lot of Christians, Jews, and Muslims need to do some soul searching and get some life straightening.


This is a silly post. These armies are secular not Christian.


Even if you want to consider the rationale behind these wars purely secular, the demographics of the armies in question and the men making the decisions are not meaningless. It's still primarily Christian volunteer armies attacking a decidedly un-Christian nation. The Commander in Chief at the time of the invasion was also quite religious.


He was also a neocon puppet. The Christian soldiers are useful idiots.
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, most of the British Soldiers were atheists. Should we blame atheism as a cause of violence in the middle east.

Read something, talk to someone, you might actually learn that the SAS doesnt want christians in its unit. They might get religious and want to "turn the other cheek".
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Koveras



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:
Actually, most of the British Soldiers were atheists. Should we blame atheism as a cause of violence in the middle east.

Read something, talk to someone, you might actually learn that the SAS doesnt want christians in its unit. They might get religious and want to "turn the other cheek".


I have no clue about the makeup of the occupying force. I took Fox's claim at face value, merely redirecting it at Judaic neocons.

FWIW, while in Korea I did meet a group of four American infantrymen at a bar. Only one of them was religious, and when I asked about the old sentiment that 'there are no atheists in foxholes' they strongly disagreed with it.
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