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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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 Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:48 am Post subject: AGW - the Al Gore challenge - proof in 7 years |
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Wed Dec 16, 7:16 am ET
COPENHAGEN � In an early version of a Dec. 14 story, Al Gore told the U.N. climate conference that new data suggested the Arctic polar ice cap may disappear in the summertime within five to seven years. Gore's office later clarified his statement and said he meant the cap would be
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The Al Gore Challenge
Here we have it. The Al Gore, phony, big mouth challenge. We just have to wait 7 years. If the Artic polar cap is not ice-free withing 5 to 7 years, so we'll give him 7 years, then he is wrong, the science is wrong and he can go away and shut up.
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There you have it, Al you bonehead, 7 years. If ice is still there, you should shut up, go away, and give back your Nobel and the cash.
The fact is that all this AGW crap is sounding more and more like the kind of scam you saw before the 20th century during a drought.
The rainman would come to town during a prolonged drought. He would make sure that the people, who little understood the science of rain or that rain would come eventually, were really worked up and fearful.
Then he would promise to make it rain. He would hang around a few days while the townsfolk became more and more fearful. Then again, he would promise to make it rain, if they would pay him a large fee. Desperate, the townspeople would raise some money among themselves and make a deal.
At this point, the rainman would begin his show - dancing, whooping, firing rockets, he would continue in hopes that the rain that he knew would come eventually, would arrive - not immediately, which would make the townsfolk renig, nor too late, which would mean the townsfolk would attack him from impatience. It was a tricky profession, but the rewards were high.
Now, Al Gore and the AGW fakirs are engaged in their own rain dance.
They want to get the peoples of the Earth all riled up and afraid, and since most are scientifically illiterate they easily believe anything they say about the global doomsday of AGW.
Then, they will collect hundreds of billions of dollars per year, a lot of power, pass a bunch of rules, and when the AGW doomsday never arrives, they will take credit for the success of this modern day raindance.
AGW is just a raindance. Al Gore is the lead conman. People who "believe" in AGW are just as ignorant as those who paid the rainmen generations ago. |
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kangnamdragun
Joined: 28 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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| Didn't Ted Danson say the world would be destroyed in 10 years, 20 years ago? |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Please stop releasing hot air into the environment, you're speeding up the ice melting. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Al Gore is not a scientist.
Actually, I think a milestone prediction would be a good idea from a political standpoint, but the leading scientists should set the goalpost, not Al Gore. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Aztec religion/science held that if the state-sponsored priesthood failed to sacrifice sufficient human hearts then the sun would not rise and the world would end.
Western medical science not so long ago held that we needed to bleed people to cure them of many diseases. And Western psychiatry only several decades ago held that electroshock therapy and lobotomies were helpful. Hello, Nurse Ratchet...
In any case, yes we have email and space shuttles. But I doubt we are inherently any more connected with the universe than any of the above. And our great-great-great grandchildren will likely look at Al Gore the way we might look at the geocentric universe or George Washington's wooden dentures or Theodore Roosevelt or Woodrow Wilson's ideas re: race today. |
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darkjedidave
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Shanghai/Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Whenever I hear/see ads about human-caused global warming (seems to be ALL THE TIME on CNN) it makes me wanna go outside and burn plastic |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:23 am Post subject: Re: AGW - the Al Gore challenge - proof in 7 years |
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There you have it, Al you bonehead, 7 years. If ice is still there, you should shut up, go away, and give back your Nobel and the cash. |
And what will you do if the polar ice cap has vanished in 7 years time?
Let me suggest.. jumping in a vat of acid so as not to take up any more precious oxygen needed by people who actually know and care about the earth's environment. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:13 am Post subject: Re: AGW - the Al Gore challenge - proof in 7 years |
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Wed Dec 16, 7:16 am ET
COPENHAGEN – In an early version of a Dec. 14 story, Al Gore told the U.N. climate conference that new data suggested the Arctic polar ice cap may disappear in the summertime within five to seven years. Gore's office later clarified his statement and said he meant the cap would be
nearly ice-free. |
The Al Gore Challenge
Here we have it. The Al Gore, phony, big mouth challenge. We just have to wait 7 years. If the Artic polar cap is not ice-free withing 5 to 7 years, so we'll give him 7 years, then he is wrong, the science is wrong and he can go away and shut up.
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
There you have it, Al you bonehead, 7 years. If ice is still there, you should shut up, go away, and give back your Nobel and the cash.
The fact is that all this AGW crap is sounding more and more like the kind of scam you saw before the 20th century during a drought.
The rainman would come to town during a prolonged drought. He would make sure that the people, who little understood the science of rain or that rain would come eventually, were really worked up and fearful.
Then he would promise to make it rain. He would hang around a few days while the townsfolk became more and more fearful. Then again, he would promise to make it rain, if they would pay him a large fee. Desperate, the townspeople would raise some money among themselves and make a deal.
At this point, the rainman would begin his show - dancing, whooping, firing rockets, he would continue in hopes that the rain that he knew would come eventually, would arrive - not immediately, which would make the townsfolk renig, nor too late, which would mean the townsfolk would attack him from impatience. It was a tricky profession, but the rewards were high.
Now, Al Gore and the AGW fakirs are engaged in their own rain dance.
They want to get the peoples of the Earth all riled up and afraid, and since most are scientifically illiterate they easily believe anything they say about the global doomsday of AGW.
Then, they will collect hundreds of billions of dollars per year, a lot of power, pass a bunch of rules, and when the AGW doomsday never arrives, they will take credit for the success of this modern day raindance.
AGW is just a raindance. Al Gore is the lead conman. People who "believe" in AGW are just as ignorant as those who paid the rainmen generations ago. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: Re: AGW - the Al Gore challenge - proof in 7 years |
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There you have it, Al you bonehead, 7 years. If ice is still there, you should shut up, go away, and give back your Nobel and the cash. |
And what will you do if the polar ice cap has vanished in 7 years time?
Let me suggest.. jumping in a vat of acid so as not to take up any more precious oxygen needed by people who actually know and care about the earth's environment. |
If the polar ice cap has vanished in 7 years time, ontheway will insist Socialism is to blame, and remind us that in his utopia, the legal pollution rate is 0%, even though he insists things that pollute will still be allowed.
If one wants to talk about raindances, ontheway's brand of extremist Libertarianism is a total raindance. Sit there and shout about how Socialism is responsible for everything bad, and then each time something bad happens, say it's proof of Socialism's evil nature, all the while insisting we need to change to an ideology-driven system that's evidently never been tried before. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| darkjedidave wrote: |
| Whenever I hear/see ads about human-caused global warming (seems to be ALL THE TIME on CNN) it makes me wanna go outside and burn plastic |
Do you also have enough courage of your convictions to stand downwind of the fire and breathe the fumes? |
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Axiom
Joined: 18 Jan 2008
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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On the subject of the great green God "Gorale"
http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/all/5592863/the-inconvenient-truth-about-malaria.thtml
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I am a scientist, not a climatologist, so I don�t dabble in climatology. My speciality is the epidemiology of mosquito-borne diseases. As the film began, I knew Mr Gore would get to mosquitoes: they�re a favourite with climate-change activists. When he got to them, it was all I feared.
In his serious voice, Mr Gore presented a nifty animation, a band of little mosquitoes fluttering their way up the slopes of a snow-capped mountain, and he repeated the old line: Nairobi used to be �above the mosquito line, the limit at which mosquitoes can survive, but now�� Those little mosquitoes kept climbing.
The truth? Nairobi means �the place of cool waters� in the Masai language. The town grew up around a camp, set up in 1899 during the construction of a railway, the famous �Lunatic Express�. There certainly was water there � and mosquitoes. From the start, the place was plagued with malaria, so much so that a few years later doctors tried to have the whole town moved to a healthier place. By 1927, the disease had become such a plague in the �White Highlands� that �40,000 (equivalent to about �350,000 today) was earmarked for malaria control. The authorities understood the root of the problem: forest clearance had created the perfect breeding places for mosquitoes. The disease was present as high as 2,500m above sea level; the mosquitoes were observed at 3,000m. And Nairobi? 1,680m. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| darkjedidave wrote: |
| Whenever I hear/see ads about human-caused global warming (seems to be ALL THE TIME on CNN) it makes me wanna go outside and burn plastic |
Do you also have enough courage of your convictions to stand downwind of the fire and breathe the fumes? |
My New Year's resolution will be to increase my carbon footprint, to help the earth. |
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bacasper
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Western medical science not so long ago held that we needed to bleed people to cure them of many diseases. And Western psychiatry only several decades ago held that electroshock therapy and lobotomies were helpful. |
A certain minority of patients unresponsive to other treatments for depression continue to benefit from electroconvulsive therapy without suffering major side effects. |
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