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Dreamcandy



Joined: 04 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Unfortunate Incidents that happen in Korea Reply with quote

I'm not sure if a post like this has started yet... please feel free to add to it if you've experienced very unfortunate incidents like this in Korea.

So, I had a conversation with my mom the other day, who is living in Korea and waiting for me to come and start my term as an English teacher. She told me she received a phone call from a man last week who claimed he was a police officer. He told her someone was hacking into her bank account and she must immediately go to the bank and make sure her funds were still there. He then asked her to punch a bunch of numbers into her phone... and she had, without her knowledge, transferred all her funds from her account to this "policeman's" account.

I'm very uncertain about how this could be done since I live in the US and policemen never call my cell phone. However, please keep in mind that if you receive a phone call from someone who is asking about your bank information, it's highly possible this person is a fake and do not stay on the line with him. He made my mother stay on the line with her, claiming it was really important that she not hang up.

She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

Just thought I'd bring this issue out here... please add to this post if you've heard of similar cases and if there's such a thing as redemption being found for stealing someone's hard earned money.
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Benicio



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting this as it is a very popular scam going on now.

Koreans know about it, but most foreigners don't.

The scammers still get the odd sucker who doesn't know they are being set up.

NEVER give your account info or other private info to a stranger, no matter who they claim to be!
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

I don't buy it. Banks absolutely know where money is transferred.
It is there job to know where every won goes.
Not only that to make accounts you have to sign up with your real name with an ID that is checked against a database. It should be extremely trivial to find out which account here money was transferred to and who it belongs to.
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hugekebab



Joined: 05 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Unfortunate Incidents that happen in Korea Reply with quote

Dreamcandy wrote:
I'm not sure if a post like this has started yet... please feel free to add to it if you've experienced very unfortunate incidents like this in Korea.

So, I had a conversation with my mom the other day, who is living in Korea and waiting for me to come and start my term as an English teacher. She told me she received a phone call from a man last week who claimed he was a police officer. He told her someone was hacking into her bank account and she must immediately go to the bank and make sure her funds were still there. He then asked her to punch a bunch of numbers into her phone... and she had, without her knowledge, transferred all her funds from her account to this "policeman's" account.

I'm very uncertain about how this could be done since I live in the US and policemen never call my cell phone. However, please keep in mind that if you receive a phone call from someone who is asking about your bank information, it's highly possible this person is a fake and do not stay on the line with him. He made my mother stay on the line with her, claiming it was really important that she not hang up.

She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

Just thought I'd bring this issue out here... please add to this post if you've heard of similar cases and if there's such a thing as redemption being found for stealing someone's hard earned money.


This is an urban myth that's been going about for years.
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jmuns



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do you say gullible in korean?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why the ATM machines ask, in several languages, "Are you making this transfer after being called by someone claiming to work for a bank..." or something like that.

She ignored the warning?
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red_devil



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
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She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

I don't buy it. Banks absolutely know where money is transferred.
It is there job to know where every won goes.
Not only that to make accounts you have to sign up with your real name with an ID that is checked against a database. It should be extremely trivial to find out which account here money was transferred to and who it belongs to.


Yep. I call BS on the OP. And let me guess - that poor victimized person is accepting donations at _________.
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Dreamcandy



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red_devil wrote:
crossmr wrote:
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She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

I don't buy it. Banks absolutely know where money is transferred.
It is there job to know where every won goes.
Not only that to make accounts you have to sign up with your real name with an ID that is checked against a database. It should be extremely trivial to find out which account here money was transferred to and who it belongs to.


Yep. I call BS on the OP. And let me guess - that poor victimized person is accepting donations at _________.


Nope, my mom isn't accepting donations (thanks for the generous idea though). Just thought I'd post this to educate people on the dangers of unique scams like this. Never heard of this being done in the US... although identity theft is becoming a real problem. Anyway, believe it or not... it's up to you. With the advance in technology, especially with Korea being so high up there, people can find "creative" ways to take your money.
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Kryten



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sympathies to your mom, Dreamcandy - I hope she didn't loose too much.

This happened to a very close friend of mine on Dec. 23rd. She lost everything.

@Bass, only some banks have that warning message before transferring money. Hers did not, and I believe if they had that measure in place she would still have her money.

@crossmr, a lot of these scumbags use stolen bank accounts. Once the money is transferred to the Korean account, they immediately transfer it to an overseas account in China.


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Seoulman69



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My co-teacher was contacted by someone on the phone regarding her bank details so this happens more often than most people would like. Just be careful with your details.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kryten wrote:
My sympathies to your mom, Dreamcandy - I hope she didn't loose too much. This happened to a very close friend of mine on Dec. 23rd. She lost everything.

@Bass, only some banks have that warning message before transferring money. Hers did not, and I believe if they had that measure in place she would still have her money.

@crossmr, a lot of these scumbags use stolen bank accounts. Once the money is transferred to the Korean account, they immediately transfer it to an overseas account in China.

They should only be able to do that once. If the account is stolen, it should be locked as soon as its reported, not to mention transfers take time, they're not immediate, especially overseas. Reported immediately, the bank should be able to stop it and close the account. Sorry, but I still can't see how the banks couldn't be shutting this down.
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ashland



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Unfortunate Incidents that happen in Korea Reply with quote

Dreamcandy wrote:
I'm not sure if a post like this has started yet... please feel free to add to it if you've experienced very unfortunate incidents like this in Korea.

So, I had a conversation with my mom the other day, who is living in Korea and waiting for me to come and start my term as an English teacher. She told me she received a phone call from a man last week who claimed he was a police officer. He told her someone was hacking into her bank account and she must immediately go to the bank and make sure her funds were still there. He then asked her to punch a bunch of numbers into her phone... and she had, without her knowledge, transferred all her funds from her account to this "policeman's" account.

I'm very uncertain about how this could be done since I live in the US and policemen never call my cell phone. However, please keep in mind that if you receive a phone call from someone who is asking about your bank information, it's highly possible this person is a fake and do not stay on the line with him. He made my mother stay on the line with her, claiming it was really important that she not hang up.

She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

Just thought I'd bring this issue out here... please add to this post if you've heard of similar cases and if there's such a thing as redemption being found for stealing someone's hard earned money.


omg... i feel very sorry for your mom.
it's a chinese scam called "voice-fishing".
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
This is why the ATM machines ask, in several languages, "Are you making this transfer after being called by someone claiming to work for a bank..." or something like that.

She ignored the warning?


IF you re-read the OP you will see that she was no where near an ATM and that it was over the phone. Each key makes a different sound when pressed. These guys know the tone for each key and write down the number. Then they use it to get the money. At least that's what i've been told. It was foolish of his mom to fall for it.
Crossmr raises some interesting points. Probably stuff the police here have never thought of.
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Dreamcandy



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Kryten & Ashland

@Kryten~ My mom was hit on the 23rd too... interesting.

I think we should try to get this out to people... foreigners and native Koreans... which is why I'm posting this. People are just too trusting and when they are being contacted by a policeman, they automatically think something is wrong and they should comply at all cost.

My sympathies to whoever was hit by this scam... We now need to be more careful... hard lesson to learn, isn't it....
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Sadebugo1



Joined: 11 May 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Unfortunate Incidents that happen in Korea Reply with quote

Dreamcandy wrote:
I'm not sure if a post like this has started yet... please feel free to add to it if you've experienced very unfortunate incidents like this in Korea.

So, I had a conversation with my mom the other day, who is living in Korea and waiting for me to come and start my term as an English teacher. She told me she received a phone call from a man last week who claimed he was a police officer. He told her someone was hacking into her bank account and she must immediately go to the bank and make sure her funds were still there. He then asked her to punch a bunch of numbers into her phone... and she had, without her knowledge, transferred all her funds from her account to this "policeman's" account.

I'm very uncertain about how this could be done since I live in the US and policemen never call my cell phone. However, please keep in mind that if you receive a phone call from someone who is asking about your bank information, it's highly possible this person is a fake and do not stay on the line with him. He made my mother stay on the line with her, claiming it was really important that she not hang up.

She reported her loss to the police and because there are so many cases where money is being stolen through a phone hacking system, it's nearly untraceable.

Just thought I'd bring this issue out here... please add to this post if you've heard of similar cases and if there's such a thing as redemption being found for stealing someone's hard earned money.


The subject line should yield an infinite amount of posts!!!

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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