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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Law and Order in Korea Reply with quote

A few days ago we had the president raving on about Koreans wanting more law and order. What we got from this was prisons for foreigners, funded by some kind of charity (smells dodgy), fingerprinting foreigners, and some other minor procedural matters.
Why was this done? For justice, fairness, protection of citizens, those normal reasons for legal reform.
No it was in consideration of Korea's International image. Wrong reasons buddy.

Today we have this:

SEOUL, Dec 29 (Reuters) - South Korea's president will pardon one of the country's richest and most influential businessmen, former Samsung chairman Lee Kun-hee, convicted of tax evasion, the justice minister said on Tuesday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE5BS00W20091229?type=marketsNews

Why is it the "Bulldozer" can't get the scooters off the sidewalks, and enforcement of traffic laws-seems like a no brainer, and not that big of a challenge.


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Netizen Joe



Joined: 22 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a couple of months ago he pardoned about 100,000 minor offenders, including thousands owing traffic tickets. Doesn't send a very 'law and order' message to Mr. Kim who, on average, probably runs ten red lights a day. Nor does it say much about Koreans' reasoning powers when Mr. Kim, the very same one who runs ten red lights a day, wants more 'law and order' on the streets. Rolling Eyes

I've always thought it amazing that Koreans, a nation of habitual lawbreakers, demand that non-Koreans have spotless criminal records. The ajoshi at immigration with the 'visa denied' stamp has broken more Korean laws in his life than any foreigner could ever do. And if said ajoshi had lived in Canada, the US etc. and acted like he does in Korea, he's have a criminal record as long as his arm.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've always thought it amazing that Koreans, a nation of habitual lawbreakers


Pretty much any nation with cars and crosswalks is a nation of habitual law breakers.

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a couple of months ago he pardoned about 100,000 minor offenders, including thousands owing traffic tickets. Doesn't send a very 'law and order' message to Mr. Kim who, on average, probably runs ten red lights a day


This is probably done to alleviate the economic crunch. The State of Michigan was considering the same thing with its Driver Responsibility fees.

Not to mention the whole early parole thing and having a 2 year felony turn into a year's probation and community service.

This kind of thing isn't unique to Koreans.

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The ajoshi at immigration with the 'visa denied' stamp has broken more Korean laws in his life than any foreigner could ever do.


Oh really?

Personally I think both of us have committed as many 'crimes' as the other.

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And if said ajoshi had lived in Canada, the US etc. and acted like he does in Korea, he's have a criminal record as long as his arm.


What pray tell would be the offenses that would get him that kind of rap sheet?

As for the pardon and things like that, remember Bush commuting Scooter Libby's sentence? Mark Rich? Willy Horton?

I think the idea that Korea is some sort of criminals paradise versus, say, ahem, the U.S. is outright ludicrous and anyone who isn't suffering from basher delusion can see that.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Netizen Joe wrote:
Doesn't send a very 'law and order' message to Mr. Kim who, on average, probably runs ten red lights a day.


The day after Christmas, a friend and I took a taxi in Seoul. The driver encountered seven red lights on the journey across town. He stopped at just one of them. I'm still curious why that one, and only that one, red light was so sacred that he obeyed the law that time.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: Law and Order in Korea Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
A few days ago we had the president raving on about Koreans wanting more law and order.


Did he have a glow stick in his mouth and drop a tab of E whilst doing the press conference? lol
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: Law and Order in Korea Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
GoldMember wrote:
A few days ago we had the president raving on about Koreans wanting more law and order.


Did he have a glow stick in his mouth and drop a tab of E whilst doing the press conference? lol


If he didn't you wouldn't have to look far to find someone to claim he did..
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm waiting for Netizen Joe to come in and present the constitution as the document guaranteeing law, order and fundamental freedoms for all in this cold, snow covered Kimchiland.
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ashland



Joined: 05 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Law and Order in Korea Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
A few days ago we had the president raving on about Koreans wanting more law and order. What we got from this was prisons for foreigners, funded by some kind of charity (smells dodgy), fingerprinting foreigners, and some other minor procedural matters.
Why was this done? For justice, fairness, protection of citizens, those normal reasons for legal reform.
No it was in consideration of Korea's International image. Wrong reasons buddy.

Today we have this:

SEOUL, Dec 29 (Reuters) - South Korea's president will pardon one of the country's richest and most influential businessmen, former Samsung chairman Lee Kun-hee, convicted of tax evasion, the justice minister said on Tuesday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTOE5BS00W20091229?type=marketsNews

Why is it the "Bulldozer" can't get the scooters off the sidewalks, and enforcement of traffic laws-seems like a no brainer, and not that big of a challenge.


couldn't agree more... korea has incompetent law enforcement and judicial sytem. street warriers delivering jajangmyun on their bikes scare the shit out of you... rapists can get away with 5 - 10 year prison sentences... cho du-soon raped a 9 yr girl in a church bathroom until her colon fell off, and got a 12 yr sentence. what a joke!
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean police? When you've got a cartoonish, Pokemon-like dog as your symbol, then it is no wonder that you are not respected.
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Netizen Joe



Joined: 22 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does one even fail a driving test in Korea? Stop at a red light?
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