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Kimbop



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't you people see?? It's because he was lonely! It's because he didn't have any friends, and no girls would touch his peepee! It's because he was a 23-year-old virgin! So it's not really his fault!

Read this piece of crap from the WaPo for more:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/28/AR2009122802492.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2009122802585

Don't you get it?? It's not his evil religion (or his holy book, or his imams who advocate violence, or his frustration at his lack of control over any women) that fueled this violence --- he did it because he's an "isolated extremist" who went berserk! So it's not a terrorist attack! No need to take the republican hard-line stance on mooslims! No need to put islam in the spotlight again! We're all liberal childless unionized brothers & sisters, after all!

(And nevermind that he prayed every day, is a devout muslim, preached islam incessantly, met with radicals, etc. JUST NEVER MIND THAT STUFF! This is an isolated incident! He wasn't brainwashed by Islam! No terrorist attack here!) He is a lonely PERSON, not a terrorist! Even if he grew up without Islam's influence, it still could have happened! CAIR speaks the truth *

* I find it ironic that millions of people now know more about the college years of this brainwashed muslim kid than they do about their own president.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimbop wrote:
Can't you people see?? It's because he was lonely! It's because he didn't have any friends, and no girls would touch his peepee! It's because he was a 23-year-old virgin! So it's not really his fault!

The connection between violence and sexual repression is not so far-fetched.

In his landmark study, "Body Pleasure and the Origins of Violence," published over 30 years ago in Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Dr. James Prescott was able to predict with near-perfect accuracy levels of adult violence according to how cultures around the world treated their infants and how sexually permissive they were with their adolescents.

Read it at www.violence.de.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
So, to recap. To prevent muslim violence on airplanes we all have to be herded like cattle, give up shampoo and shaving cream, take off our shoes etc. My better half gets full body scans every time. And then the government gives a visa to a known muslim wannabe terrorist to attend a religious ceremony.

Let me take on shampoo. Keep faruk in England. And if you're going to full body scan anybody, scan the usual suspects.

How about US intelligence just stop setting up Muslim dupes and patsies?

His father warned authorities about his son's extremism, and they guy did not have a passport, yet with the help of a well-dressed man he managed to get on an international flight to the US with explosives.

Yeah, OK. There was no inside help on that one. Rolling Eyes
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
mises wrote:
So, to recap. To prevent muslim violence on airplanes we all have to be herded like cattle, give up shampoo and shaving cream, take off our shoes etc. My better half gets full body scans every time. And then the government gives a visa to a known muslim wannabe terrorist to attend a religious ceremony.

Let me take on shampoo. Keep faruk in England. And if you're going to full body scan anybody, scan the usual suspects.

How about US intelligence just stop setting up Muslim dupes and patsies?

His father warned authorities about his son's extremism, and they guy did not have a passport, yet with the help of a well-dressed man he managed to get on an international flight to the US with explosives.

Yeah, OK. There was no inside help on that one. Rolling Eyes


Umm, he had a passport and a US visa. He had been to Houston a couple times.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Kimbop wrote:
Can't you people see?? It's because he was lonely! It's because he didn't have any friends, and no girls would touch his peepee! It's because he was a 23-year-old virgin! So it's not really his fault!

The connection between violence and sexual repression is not so far-fetched.

In his landmark study, "Body Pleasure and the Origins of Violence," published over 30 years ago in Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Dr. James Prescott was able to predict with near-perfect accuracy levels of adult violence according to how cultures around the world treated their infants and how sexually permissive they were with their adolescents.

Read it at www.violence.de.


This kinda made me think of Brave New World, and the pathetic citizenry wiled by pleasures such as frequent orgy-porgies.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
bacasper wrote:
mises wrote:
So, to recap. To prevent muslim violence on airplanes we all have to be herded like cattle, give up shampoo and shaving cream, take off our shoes etc. My better half gets full body scans every time. And then the government gives a visa to a known muslim wannabe terrorist to attend a religious ceremony.

Let me take on shampoo. Keep faruk in England. And if you're going to full body scan anybody, scan the usual suspects.

How about US intelligence just stop setting up Muslim dupes and patsies?

His father warned authorities about his son's extremism, and they guy did not have a passport, yet with the help of a well-dressed man he managed to get on an international flight to the US with explosives.

Yeah, OK. There was no inside help on that one. Rolling Eyes


Umm, he had a passport and a US visa. He had been to Houston a couple times.

Although he had been issued a multiple-entry visa, he did not have a passport with him on Christmas Day when trying to board and needed the help of the well-dressed man, according to reports.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EVIDENCE MOUNTS FOR U.S. COMPLICITY

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Dad, back in Nigeria, ran the national arms industry (DICON) in partnership with Israel, in particular, the Mossad. He was in daily contact with them. They run everything in Nigeria, from arms production to counter-terrorism. Though Islamic, Muttalab was a close associate of Israel.

Next, what do we know about the two Al Qaeda leaders Bush had released, the ones who planned this?

According to ABC news, the Al Qaeda leaders running the insurgency in Yemen were released from Guantanamo...With all the hoopla about trials in New York, not a word is said when top level terrorists are released to Saudi friends of the Bush family who let them go. We are now fighting these two Bush friends in Yemen.

CBS NEWS LEARNS CIA HAD ADVANCE INFORMATION ON DETROIT TERRORIST

CBS News has learned that as early as August of 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency was picking up information on a person of interest dubbed "The Nigerian," suspected of meeting with "terrorist elements" in Yemen.

Sources tell CBS News "The Nigerian" has now turned out to be Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. But that connection was not made when Abudulmutallab's father went to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria three months later, on November 19, 2009.

Paul Gimigliano, a CIA spokesman wrote:
"We learned of him in November, when his father came to the U.S. embassy in Nigeria and sought help in finding him. We did not have his name before then. Also in November, we worked with the embassy to ensure he was in the government's terrorist database - including mention of his possible extremist connections in Yemen. We also forwarded key biographical information about him to the National Counterterrorism Center.


CIA, ISRAEL AND YEMEN

It is claimed by groups claiming to be Al Qaeda in Yemen that the Detroit attack was in retaliation to US attacks on bases in Yemen run by Al Qaeda leaders released by Bush.

The government of Yemen, as reported in the BBC , says that the Al Qaeda terrorists, led by those released by Bush, are really Israeli agents though they have organized attacks against US targets:

Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence.

Kurt Haskell of Newport, Mich., took to the comments section of this Web site early Saturday to share his story: That he and his wife, Lori, saw a well-dressed man help Abdulmutallab board the flight without a passport under the guise he was a Sudanese refugee. The military police have already said Abdulmutallab did not go through passport control at Schiphol when he arrived from Lagos.

Watch Haskell's interview with Alex Jones
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
bacasper wrote:
Kimbop wrote:
Can't you people see?? It's because he was lonely! It's because he didn't have any friends, and no girls would touch his peepee! It's because he was a 23-year-old virgin! So it's not really his fault!

The connection between violence and sexual repression is not so far-fetched.

In his landmark study, "Body Pleasure and the Origins of Violence," published over 30 years ago in Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Dr. James Prescott was able to predict with near-perfect accuracy levels of adult violence according to how cultures around the world treated their infants and how sexually permissive they were with their adolescents.

Read it at www.violence.de.




This kinda made me think of Brave New World, and the pathetic citizenry wiled by pleasures such as frequent orgy-porgies.


Well, if I recall correctly, the World State in BNW was in fact a lot less violent than ours, presumably as a result of their citizens being zonked out on drugs and orgies all the time. On the other hand, it was also a lot less free.

Between Orwell's view of sexual puritanism linked to political repression, and Huxley's view of sexual freedom linked to political repression, I'd have to say Orwell was closer to the mark. Most dictatorships I can think of generally try to inhibit sexual choice and expression. The people in Brave New World seem more like the apathetic inhabitants of an overly comfortable democracy rather than that of an authoritarian dictatorship.
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beck's



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the elites of the US and other countries were planning to set up One World Government and turn us all into slaves, through their use of the fear of terrorism, wouldn't they just assassinate Alex Jones, Michael Moore, David Eycke and the other Conspiracy Theorists? It would be so easy to arrange accidents for these guys.

The elites (JP Morgan, Rothchilds, et al) have been around for a very long time. Why is it taking them so long to turn us all into slaves?

Instead, Conspiracy Theorists have the right to broadcast their beliefs and have become millionaires doing so.

This is a example of the freedom that westerners enjoy, not the opposite. It is my assertion, borne out by observation and daily living that we have more not less freedom than ever before.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
bacasper wrote:
mises wrote:
So, to recap. To prevent muslim violence on airplanes we all have to be herded like cattle, give up shampoo and shaving cream, take off our shoes etc. My better half gets full body scans every time. And then the government gives a visa to a known muslim wannabe terrorist to attend a religious ceremony.

Let me take on shampoo. Keep faruk in England. And if you're going to full body scan anybody, scan the usual suspects.

How about US intelligence just stop setting up Muslim dupes and patsies?

His father warned authorities about his son's extremism, and they guy did not have a passport, yet with the help of a well-dressed man he managed to get on an international flight to the US with explosives.

Yeah, OK. There was no inside help on that one. Rolling Eyes


Umm, he had a passport and a US visa. He had been to Houston a couple times.



Bacasper is going based on what a man who used to work for the IRS said when he was in Amsterdam. This man claimed he saw this Nigerian with an Indian man who insisted that the Nigerian got on the plane, but we also know that the Nigerian fellow once attended an Islamic conference in the U.S., and he, presumably, had a passport at that time. I can't see Dutch passport control letting someone get on a plane without a passport. It's just not done.

I don't think he should have been allowed in the U.S. even he was not on a no fly list. I think he got a visa in the past because his father was a former Nigerian official. He used his father's connections to fly.
Obviously, he didn't think of how this would impact his family.

I can understand how the intelligence services might be overworked and have so much to deal with, and didn't think this young boy would be a major threat. Obviously, no one acted with urgency.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

beck's wrote:
If the elites of the US and other countries were planning to set up One World Government and turn us all into slaves, through their use of the fear of terrorism, wouldn't they just assassinate Alex Jones, Michael Moore, David Eycke and the other Conspiracy Theorists? It would be so easy to arrange accidents for these guys.

People with large followings are protected to a certain extent. If anything were to happen to them, it would only confirm what they have been telling their followers and strengthen their numbers.

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The elites (JP Morgan, Rothchilds, et al) have been around for a very long time. Why is it taking them so long to turn us all into slaves?

Instead, Conspiracy Theorists have the right to broadcast their beliefs and have become millionaires doing so.

What about the billions and trillions the Morgans, Rothschilds, and Rockefellers have made? Why does no on ever question that, but stress that a hard-working opposition investigator made a million getting the word out?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beck's wrote:
The elites (JP Morgan, Rothchilds, et al) have been around for a very long time. Why is it taking them so long to turn us all into slaves?


They're benevolent enough to allow us the privilege of being serfs instead of slaves. As long as I pay taxes that are given to bankers, I won't be thrown into prison. And they can always count on a certain number of idiots to lay down their lives for them, just as some of Nathan Bedford Forrest's brainwashed slaves died fighting for him.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
Kimbop wrote:
Can't you people see?? It's because he was lonely! It's because he didn't have any friends, and no girls would touch his peepee! It's because he was a 23-year-old virgin! So it's not really his fault!

The connection between violence and sexual repression is not so far-fetched.

I am not the only one who noticed. Read this sex therapist's take on Farouk:


Inside Both Heads of the Crotch Bomber

The Explosive Underpants of Allah�s Panty Boy, the Crotch Bomber

Frustrated male sexuality fused with terror in the burned undies of the Crotch Bomber, a.k.a. the Underpants Bomber, a.k.a. the Weeniebomber, a.k.a. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, a.k.a. Farouk1986. Many terror experts are trying to get �inside the head� of this privileged, 23-year-old Nigerian banker�s son who appears to have learned terror tactics from al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula as nonchalantly as he studied mechanical engineering at University College London, before boarding Northwest Airlines Flight 258 from Amsterdam to Detroit with deadly plastic explosives nestled right up against the Abdulmutallab family jewels.

As a sex therapist, I think it wise to try to get inside both heads of this young man, not just the one between his ears but the one between his legs, to look into the dirty underwear, so to speak, of the Panty Bomber who didn�t actually bomb anything, yet had enough PETN next to his junk to bring down a whole plane with all 278 passengers and 11 crew members.

In many ways, �Farouk1986,� as he called himself on the Gawaher Islamic Forums, was a typical, horny, young male virgin valiantly attempting to follow religious strictures that kept him from releasing his natural sexual tension in any acceptable way. Most orthodox versions of the world�s organized religions denounce sex before marriage as sinful. Though young people tend to be ready for the pleasures of sex long before they are prepared for the responsibilities of marriage, this is one of the bulwarks of �family values� and not to be disobeyed. Not only are observant, young, single males in the Christian, Jewish and Islamic faiths not allowed to have sex with anyone, they�re not supposed to masturbate either.

According to George Carlin, if God had intended us not to masturbate, (S)he would have made our arms shorter. But most priests, rabbis, ministers, ayatollahs and imams do not get that joke and do not tolerate their choir, yeshiva or madrassa boys �abusing themselves.�

Farouk1986�s religion is, of course, a �radical� form of Islam. That�s not to say the other religions are superior when it comes to being reasonable about sex; they�re just culturally different. But since we�re trying to get inside both heads of young Farouk1986, let�s examine what he was going through as he attempted to live the pure, asexual life of a modern, devout, unmarried, Muslim male.

very interesting, entertaining, and relevant article continues at link
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

U.S. Complicit in Terror Plot, FBI, Media Cover-Up Flight 253 Assistance (UPDATES)

Posted: 2009/12/31

First Posted: December 31, 2009. Last updated: January 7, 2010.


High-level help in yet another terror plot is emerging, along with U.S. F.B.I. and D.O.J. cover-up of the facts and outright involvement. History is rife with examples of intelligence agencies setting up terror plots - sometimes with unintended victims and consequences - and the Delta 253 terror plot is the latest such plot to have gone wrong.

Evidence is mounting of U.S. and possibly Israeli complicity in this latest plot. The father Alhaji Umaru Abdul Mutallab of the young terrorist, is now being promoted as an accomplished Nigerian banker and ran the national arms industry (DICON) in patnership with Israel, Nigeria has extensive intelligence links to Israel.

The young man, son of the above, who tried to blow up the plane is a 23 year old Nigerian named Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab; he has attended the British International School, Lome, Togo and studied engineering at the University College, London and was a master�s in international business degree student at the Dubai campus of an Australian University [link].

That a wife of his father, is from Yemen, and frequently travels to the United States, is as yet unconfirmed, however it is known that Umar Farouk Abdul-Mutallab holds a Nigerian passport with a multiple entry visa to the United States, which is valid until June 2010.

The young man fell out with his father, and may have visited Yemen and mixed with islamist terrorists there, to join with those he believed to be at the opposite end of his father's allegiences (money, USA, banking, arms industry). He will not have known that those terrorists in Yemen are supported [link] by Israel's MOSSAD.

A text message was received by his family in Nigeria, apparently from the young Mutallab, which led his father, who is received as a VIP by the U.S. embassy in the capital Abuja, to visit that embassy to alert the U.S. of his son's activities, on November 19.

As a result this information is shared by the U.S. embassy with U.S. agencies, resulting in the son being placed on a terror watch list. For this reason, the son cannot show that passport or he would be unable to board the Northwest Airlines flight from Amsterdam, where he flew after returning via Nigeria from Yemen.

(It is claimed by U.S. media that in Yemen he even met up with some of those released [link] without charge from Guantanamo. 92% of those held and tortured by the U.S. for many years, were innocent of any terrorism, 6% were involved with the Taliban in Afghanistan, and at most 2% were said to have anything to do with Al-Qaida. We can trust the U.S. to have released any real terrorists, and to continue to hold any innocents.)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With so much being attributed to conspiracies, there seems to be no more room left for simple mistakes or apathy. And yet, when I look around me at the world I know, it is full of simple mistakes and apathy. Is the international governmental scene so very different from the world I know that there is no room for mistakes and apathy, and every event is shaped and formed with a malicious purpose, an all-consuming evil?

I think not.
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