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JFuller317
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 Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: Well, I might have just gotten ripped off. |
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but I think I just got ripped off.
A few days ago, I made a thread entitled "WTB: Xbox 360." No one replied, but I got an email the next day from a guy who said he couldn't send pms yet. He told me he had an Xbox 360 to sell, along with a bunch of games. He asked me if I lived near Mokpo. Of course, I don't, so I told him that he'd have to ship it if I bought from him. I asked him for a phone number, intending to give him a call before sending any money. He gave me a number, but told me that it was a prepaid phone that he had to reactivate.
We negotiated a price, and I sent the money today. His emails were pretty convincing. And furthermore, I had made quite a few purchases on this forum over the last year and never had a problem.
When I got home, I sent him a followup email. A few minutes later, I got a message in my inbox from yahoo telling me that the message was undeliverable. Very fishy.
The guy used a Woori bank account. Since I have an account #, there must be a way to track him down. I think I'm going to have to make a trip to the police office on Monday.
I would say that in the future, it's fair to ask sellers to ship first. If anything goes wrong, at least you have a physical address as a seller. As a buyer, all you have is a bank account. |
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JFuller317
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Forgot to mention: I called that phone # he gave me, and some Korean guy answered the phone. I said the guy's name, and the Korean had no idea what I was talking about. |
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JFuller317
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| 30 views and not a single person feels like replying with any kind of advice? |
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taesookim
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| sucks that happened to you. there were quite a few people that got ripped off by the dorkyo guy. when handling large transactions i would always talk to the person before buying. you should read the post below some good warning signs there |
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JFuller317
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| Since I have a bank account #, there must be a way to track the guy down. Do you think the police would make any effort to help me here? |
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taesookim
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| from what i hear no. the bank account number is not sufficient enough. but im not sure thats just what people are saying |
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JFuller317
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Are you basing that on Schweitzer's post in the other thread, or have other people tried to go to the police and also failed? Because if you're going off of Schweitzer's post, I've got some info that puts a really interesting twist on the story.
The people who got ripped off by that dkyoro fellow sent money to a Woori bank account. This guy also used Woori bank. There's a good chance it's the same guy. If anyone who got ripped off by that other guys wants to pm me, we can compare to see if it's the same account. |
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Informer
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: Re: Well, I might have just gotten ripped off. |
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| JFuller317 wrote: |
I can't believe I'm typing this, but I think I just got ripped off.
A few days ago, I made a thread entitled "WTB: Xbox 360." No one replied, but I got an email the next day from a guy who said he couldn't send pms yet. He told me he had an Xbox 360 to sell, along with a bunch of games. He asked me if I lived near Mokpo. Of course, I don't, so I told him that he'd have to ship it if I bought from him. I asked him for a phone number, intending to give him a call before sending any money. He gave me a number, but told me that it was a prepaid phone that he had to reactivate.
We negotiated a price, and I sent the money today. His emails were pretty convincing. And furthermore, I had made quite a few purchases on this forum over the last year and never had a problem.
When I got home, I sent him a followup email. A few minutes later, I got a message in my inbox from yahoo telling me that the message was undeliverable. Very fishy.
The guy used a Woori bank account. Since I have an account #, there must be a way to track him down. I think I'm going to have to make a trip to the police office on Monday.
I would say that in the future, it's fair to ask sellers to ship first. If anything goes wrong, at least you have a physical address as a seller. As a buyer, all you have is a bank account. |
Not smart!!
You send money to a stranger before receiving the product? Sure you got his phone number and emails.. and maybe they sounded convincing.
You should have met him in person to make the trade.
If it was 20-30,000 won sure what the hell , why not..
But your the only one responsible for agreeing to send money to someone u have never met before..
Sure you made transactions before with others on this board and never had a problem.. doesnt mean its not gonna happen.
eslcafe is not ebay.
i feel bad for your situation.. but man, come on .. use some common sense here. u never met him before yet your confident he will come through on a deal brokered over a telephone conversation and email exchanges????
i guess you'll know better next time.. lets this be a lesson.
I am not shitting on you here.. but anyone would agree what you did was negligent!! |
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SeoulnPepe
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:33 am Post subject: |
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With larger sums than 20,000W, always do a f2f transaction.
I was about to buy an sb-25 flash from someone on slrclub, but decided against it. Too risky, even though it seemed like a good deal. I'd rather work f2f with people (whether buying or selling).
All the best in getting this resolved. |
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JFuller317
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Did that needed to be posted? I'm well aware that I made a mistake here. I'm more interested in speaking to anyone who has experience dealing with the Korean police or anyone who was ripped off by dkoryo in that other thread.
Anyway, the guy claimed to live in Mokpo. I live in Daegu. It would be a pretty hefty journey to make in order to do a f2f transaction.
The guy who set up this sale with me claimed to be Schweitzer from this forum. If you look at Page 3 of the dkoryo rip-off thread, you'll see that he made a post talking about this very issue, saying that the police won't do anything about it. It's very ballsy of him to do something like that. Gives the police more reason to investigate, IMO, now that we know it's a recurring thing. |
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Informer
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:36 am Post subject: Re: Well, I might have just gotten ripped off. |
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| JFuller317 wrote: |
I can't believe I'm typing this, but I think I just got ripped off.
A few days ago, I made a thread entitled "WTB: Xbox 360." No one replied, but I got an email the next day from a guy who said he couldn't send pms yet. He told me he had an Xbox 360 to sell, along with a bunch of games. He asked me if I lived near Mokpo. Of course, I don't, so I told him that he'd have to ship it if I bought from him. I asked him for a phone number, intending to give him a call before sending any money. He gave me a number, but told me that it was a prepaid phone that he had to reactivate.
We negotiated a price, and I sent the money today. His emails were pretty convincing. And furthermore, I had made quite a few purchases on this forum over the last year and never had a problem.
When I got home, I sent him a followup email. A few minutes later, I got a message in my inbox from yahoo telling me that the message was undeliverable. Very fishy.
The guy used a Woori bank account. Since I have an account #, there must be a way to track him down. I think I'm going to have to make a trip to the police office on Monday.
I would say that in the future, it's fair to ask sellers to ship first. If anything goes wrong, at least you have a physical address as a seller. As a buyer, all you have is a bank account. |
Not smart!!
You send money to a stranger before receiving the product? Sure you got his phone number and emails.. and maybe they sounded convincing.
You should have met him in person to make the trade.
If it was 20-30,000 won sure what the hell , why not..
But your the only one responsible for agreeing to send money to someone u have never met before..
Sure you made transactions before with others on this board and never had a problem.. doesnt mean its not gonna happen.
eslcafe is not ebay.
i feel bad for your situation.. but man, come on .. use some common sense here. u never met him before yet your confident he will come through on a deal brokered over a telephone conversation and email exchanges????
i guess you'll know better next time.. lets this be a lesson.
I am not shitting on you here.. but anyone would agree what you did was negligent!! |
Part about giving advice?.. meet in person for large transactions.
Will you get this resolved?.. imo you wont get resolved.. the police wont do shit nor will the bank give you info for the account you made the deposit to.. i dont think you will get your money back. you might have to just suck it up and take.. learn from this and move on.
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bassexpander
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You can report this to the Seoul cybercrimes division of the Dongdaemun police dept. They speak English. I'm assuming they can help you, because it involved the internet.
http://english.ddm.go.kr/sub04/sub04_07_01.asp
If they can't help you, they'll point you in the right direction. |
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JFuller317
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| Awesome. I'll call them soon. Really seems like this should be a no-brainer. The police would barely have to do anything. Two phone calls should be all it would take to scare the guy into returning the money or mailing the item. |
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Informer
Joined: 21 Sep 2006
Location: Bundang
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| Awesome. I'll call them soon. Really seems like this should be a no-brainer. The police would barely have to do anything. Two phone calls should be all it would take to scare the guy into returning the money or mailing the item. |
Good luck.. but i've heard stories like this b4.. and one story from a friend i know something simliar happened to him. cops wont do shit.
you'll be the first person i know that gets justice done.
I hate to be negative about your problem. But i've been here for over 6 years and i've seen the police get walked over by their own and so i guess you could say i am more ignorant toward the law. the process you will have to endure will make u want to give up because its too much of a headache.
all the power to u bud! |
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itaewonguy
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| Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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bank account is enough to track him down.. dont worry...
go to the police monday, tell them what happened...
give the bank account number and tell him you are a victim of cyber crime.. you will be ok.. they will call the bank, and get the owner of that account down to the station to explain why you sent him that money... |
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