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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:09 pm Post subject: Why would anyone support the Taliban |
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http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/01/20101112507938245.html
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The bomber apparently drove his vehicle onto a field where a volleyball tournament was under way.
"There was a match between two village teams and a lot of people were watching it," Habibullah Khan, the police chief of Bannu district, said.
Since the Pakistani army launched a ground offensive in South Waziristan in October, bombings have plagued Pakistan and killed more than 500 people.
Possible retaliation
Imran Khan, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the capital Islamabad, said: "Lakki Marwat is a place that has seen fighting against Taliban and al-Qaeda elements.
"The people of that area formed tribal militias to fight foreign fighters and the Taliban to push them out. So this was probably a retaliatory attack."
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I am of the opinion that if we have to prevent this type of action becoming the norm, then the people who do this should be crushed. However long the world must take to do it. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| The US military bombs weddings and schools. The Taliban bombs volleyball tournaments. The US military says po-tay-to. The Taliban says po-tah-to. |
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ytuque
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Why would anyone support the Taliban |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/01/20101112507938245.html
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The bomber apparently drove his vehicle onto a field where a volleyball tournament was under way.
"There was a match between two village teams and a lot of people were watching it," Habibullah Khan, the police chief of Bannu district, said.
Since the Pakistani army launched a ground offensive in South Waziristan in October, bombings have plagued Pakistan and killed more than 500 people.
Possible retaliation
Imran Khan, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the capital Islamabad, said: "Lakki Marwat is a place that has seen fighting against Taliban and al-Qaeda elements.
"The people of that area formed tribal militias to fight foreign fighters and the Taliban to push them out. So this was probably a retaliatory attack."
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I am of the opinion that if we have to prevent this type of action becoming the norm, then the people who do this should be crushed. However long the world must take to do it. |
A sizeable percentage of people in Pakistan support terrorism. Until they reject terrorism, I can't feel any sympathy for them. |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Reggie wrote: |
| The US military bombs weddings and schools. The Taliban bombs volleyball tournaments. The US military says po-tay-to. The Taliban says po-tah-to. |
This. |
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chickenpie
Joined: 24 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Why would anyone support the Taliban |
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| ytuque wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/01/20101112507938245.html
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The bomber apparently drove his vehicle onto a field where a volleyball tournament was under way.
"There was a match between two village teams and a lot of people were watching it," Habibullah Khan, the police chief of Bannu district, said.
Since the Pakistani army launched a ground offensive in South Waziristan in October, bombings have plagued Pakistan and killed more than 500 people.
Possible retaliation
Imran Khan, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the capital Islamabad, said: "Lakki Marwat is a place that has seen fighting against Taliban and al-Qaeda elements.
"The people of that area formed tribal militias to fight foreign fighters and the Taliban to push them out. So this was probably a retaliatory attack."
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I am of the opinion that if we have to prevent this type of action becoming the norm, then the people who do this should be crushed. However long the world must take to do it. |
A sizeable percentage of people in Pakistan support terrorism. Until they reject terrorism, I can't feel any sympathy for them. |
Yes, everyone in the world should just bow to the US. |
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ytuque
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Why would anyone support the Taliban |
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| chickenpie wrote: |
| ytuque wrote: |
| Summer Wine wrote: |
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/2010/01/20101112507938245.html
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The bomber apparently drove his vehicle onto a field where a volleyball tournament was under way.
"There was a match between two village teams and a lot of people were watching it," Habibullah Khan, the police chief of Bannu district, said.
Since the Pakistani army launched a ground offensive in South Waziristan in October, bombings have plagued Pakistan and killed more than 500 people.
Possible retaliation
Imran Khan, Al Jazeera's correspondent in the capital Islamabad, said: "Lakki Marwat is a place that has seen fighting against Taliban and al-Qaeda elements.
"The people of that area formed tribal militias to fight foreign fighters and the Taliban to push them out. So this was probably a retaliatory attack."
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I am of the opinion that if we have to prevent this type of action becoming the norm, then the people who do this should be crushed. However long the world must take to do it. |
A sizeable percentage of people in Pakistan support terrorism. Until they reject terrorism, I can't feel any sympathy for them. |
Yes, everyone in the world should just bow to the US. |
If they want a return to the caliphate, let them have it. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ytuque, I don't think world events are simple as you seem to portray, this cut-and-dried world. Granted, I am against Islamic fundamentalism just as you are, but I think it was long promoted by the U.S. I also want the US extricated from Afghanistan relatively soon, and not to stay there for 5 years or so.
People support the Taliban because the US and NATO are seen as foreign occupiers. As far as the majority of Pakistanis supporting terrorism, woudl you care to back that up with a poll? I've seen polls around 8 years ago showing that Binladin was somewhat popular, and then his popularity took a nose dive. That same happened in Jordan where his popularity is somewhat weak after a Jordanian hotel was bombed and killed Jordanians.
It's not simply about religion. It's also the perception that Americans and NATO forces are outsiders and don't contribute much positive to the region. I can understand that logic since all this aid was promised and the Afghans saw little of it. Karzai is extremely corrupt. It's not simply about a civilized world versus an uncivilized one. I do think that Pakistan does have a sectarian (Shiite versus Sunni problem) and a problem with radical Sunni elements. There is too much religiousity in an unhealthy way there, but I disagree, based on the polls, that most Pakistanis support terrorism.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23094334/
According to the poll results only 24 percent of Pakistanis approved of bin Laden when the survey was conducted last month, compared with 46 percent during a similar survey in August.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/221.php?nid=&id=&pnt=221&lb=brme |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, so now they aren't so keen on the whole thing now that's it's happening in their own house? Surprise, surprise.
46% recently approved, huh? Great allies we've got over there.
Get out, find alternative energy sources, and let them stew in their own backwardness. Adventurer, et al, can continue to find them fascinating while the rest of the civilized world moves forward without them. |
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Olivencia
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People would support the Taliban because of the disgusting immorality of the United States that's why. These people will kill and gladly die killing before they will ever let their son or daughter be exposed to the filth of homosexuality and the pornography that is so pervasive in the West.
That's at least a part of it.
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
Oh, so now they aren't so keen on the whole thing now that's it's happening in their own house? Surprise, surprise.
46% recently approved, huh? Great allies we've got over there.
Get out, find alternative energy sources, and let them stew in their own backwardness. Adventurer, et al, can continue to find them fascinating while the rest of the civilized world moves forward without them. |
Read again. It said 24% approved as compared to 46% in the past.
There is no real civilized world. I didn't support going into Afghanistan in the first place or Iraq. The point was Ytuque said the majority of Pakistanis support terrorism. That's not true. Too many of them to pose a problem that the US is contending with. If the majority did, then the Pakistani Government would have fallen by now. I am not a fan of Pakistan, but I have no hatred against any people. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Read again. It said 24% approved as compared to 46% in the past. |
You read again. I used the word "recently".
Are you suggesting last August is ancient history? |
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ytuque
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
Location: I drink therefore I am!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| The point was Ytuque said the majority of Pakistanis support terrorism. That's not true. Too many of them to pose a problem that the US is contending with. If the majority did, then the Pakistani Government would have fallen by now. I am not a fan of Pakistan, but I have no hatred against any people. |
What I wrote was "a sizeable percentage of people in Pakistan support terrorism." Since somewhere between 1/4 & 1/2 the population of Pakistan support Bin Laden, terrorism, and jihad, the bombings will continue. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:18 am Post subject: |
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People would support the Taliban because of the disgusting immorality of the United States that's why. These people will kill and gladly die killing before they will ever let their son or daughter be exposed to the filth of homosexuality and the pornography that is so pervasive in the West.
That's at least a part of it. |
I've lived in the Islamic world and can tell you that homosexuality is very common there. It's not because of western influence either. Talk to people who have taught in Saudi Arabia. Your comments are bigoted and disgusting and are similar to the kind of intolerance that the Taliban stands for. |
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Olivencia
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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Common there? For some but it certainly isn't accepted but more importantly it isn't so shamefully shoved in peoples faces.
My comments are bigoted and disgusting? No, that act is disgusting. Nice to see you defending filth. |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:53 am Post subject: |
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I'm defending filth? At least I don't come on this board pathetically boasting about how I'm God's gift to Asian women. And this from someone who lives in a country that stands next to Russia in the number of mail order brides.
Why do you hate homosexuality? Because it's different from you?
Turn on the TV in America? What is shoved in people's faces more? Homosexuality or heterosexuality? I've seen a lot more straight couples making out in public than gay couples. But there's still a huge double standard where if a gay couple has any public display of affection they're shoving it in people's faces.
The fact that you would stand in judgement over two men or two women who choose to be a couple and call it digusting is what I and other reasonable people would call filth. I'm glad you're not living in America. Our country needs less people like you. |
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