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Fox



Joined: 04 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jajdude wrote:
I find cards a bit odd. Nobody calls you an idiot for playing chess poorly. Yet a lot of people assume your ability in whatever card game is a direct reflection of your intelligence somehow.

Cards are stupid and too many people take card games too seriously.


I don't know about cards being stupid. I think 화트 cards are pretty fun to play with honesty, even if some of the plants look way too similar.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite anger at me poker moment was when some guy who I had just won a big pot off of immediately went all in with his next hand (dead giveaway for being on-tilt) Everyone else folded and it came to me and I had something like King-8 and the big stack. We were playing tournament style, and I put him on tilt. He had like 4-8 offsuit or something like that. He got mad at me for calling. I explained to him three times that he was on tilt, but he kept on insisting that it was dumb for someone to call with King-8 preflop. Yes it is, but not when the other person is on tilt and you have a big stack to play with in a tourney game.
What's even worse is that it was a $5 beer money game (I won't play for any serious money, I just love the game).

90% of people don't know what hands to play. 90% of people don't know how to bet. Not only that but many a person out there if you play for pennies or fake money plays stupid and says "well if we were playing for real money" Sorry, but if you are truly good at poker you play pretty much the same whether its play money or real money. A little more risk taking with the play money maybe, but not stupid.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP's situation is the same as rational, adult adjeosshi getting upset because I don't like South Korean food and their healthy, nutrituous white rice, and my response is the same. I repeat as often as necessary, both over cards and the quality of Korean food.

"what"? "what"?

"What"? "What"?

"WHAT"? "WHAT"?
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Lunar Groove Gardener



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amongst the civilized it's understood.
You've got to be good people first,
if you're a bad card player, all the better.
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Theme



Joined: 06 Jun 2009
Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
The OP's situation is the same as rational, adult adjeosshi getting upset because I don't like South Korean food and their healthy, nutrituous white rice, and my response is the same. I repeat as often as necessary, both over cards and the quality of Korean food.

"what"? "what"?

"What"? "What"?

"WHAT"? "WHAT"?


Not really.

The sore losers in Daejeon don't think that way.

They just expect to win; and if they don't they say - -

"you didn't play that right"

When I lose playing cards I walked away like a man.


The Genesis of me being unnoticed or at least a tolorated man to being the scorn of the crowd was winning when I should not have.

I went to Seoul and couldn't win to save my soul playing poker.

But was lucky where I lived ( in Daejeon)

But the boys ( and girls) didn't like that.

I wonder how the boys and girls felt when the cops showed up?

What they didn't know that it was a ( clearly former now) friend of mine for 8 years ran the place. I had first arrived in Daejeon in 1996 for yet another job at an oil company. Some of these kids arrived a few months earlier to work illegally in Korea as an "English Teacher"

Many of those folks were illegal Canadians ( one man was not even a native speaker, I had seen him in action elswhere talking dirty in English to a Korean date of mine) ( wierdo, pervert)
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Seoulio



Joined: 02 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: You didn't play that right! Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
Situation: Playing poker with" friends"

You win: but somehow it wasn't the way they would have played the hand.

Result: Anger from the losing player. And it wasn't the first time from this group.

I don't get it. They were either bluffed out, were trying to bluff. Whatever. It's poker, cards , gambling.

I thought that when you lose you supposed to be knocked down a notch or two; and feeling bad about being stupid enough to lose? Where is this latching out and blaming thing coming from?

The next Cho?


Heck you may even be talking about me, IT may even have been me you were playing against.

This is my take on it and I have always felt this way. In my opinion ( again opinion, not saying I am right or wrong) there is a certain way to play.

I have played with people who were out of position ( like 4th or 5th to act) it gets to them and they raise with junk ( lets say a 10 5 off suit), okay NO PROBLEM, you are making an attempt at a raise. Then they will watch the next 5 guys. Lets say theres a raise, a re raise, another HUGE re raise and a call ahead of you. Then it gets to you and you have your 10 5 off suit and you call.

YOU SHOULD NOT CALL

I mean yes you can say that "look at that pot, I need to call" but if you are in the pot relatively cheap then you can get away from it, there is no need to call an all in with the 10 5.

Then when you hit 10 10 4 on the flop, you are gonna piss off the guys holding aces or kings because of a stupid call.

Yes this is poker and if thats the way you want to play, but this is hardly "poker" this is the stupdity of one person who should not have been in the hand at all taking a pot you played well, and the other player has every right to be frustrated.

Some people have no sense of their kicker card, some people wil play bottom pair like its the nuts, some people are literally too stupid at poker to be beaten out by skill, or to win by it, and for a person making good poker moves its frustrating.

Well have you watched any of the World Series coverage in the last few years, if not do a search on youtube "Phil Hellmuth World Series" And watch what some of the people especially the "idiot from northern Europe" will call him with just so they can try to felt him. There is post after ost on youtube of Hellmuth making hge raises and getting caled with 10 high or worse, and getting beat.

Another great comment came from Daniel Negreanu, the blinds are 5 and 10, eveyone has about 5000 in chips in front of them. The FIRTS Guy after the big blind (Daniels) says ALL IN. Daniel gets frustrated and thrown his cards away, makes a silly comment and the guy says "that poker " Daniel says "realy, that's poker, 5 10........5000, thats poker is it? " I must be winning millions playing a different game then."

Bottom line is that you can play how you want to, but when you make bad calls, calls that decent poker players would not make, calls to huge reaises when you have nothing, that is not "poker" thats playing any two random cards with no skill and getting lucky by the end.

Again, thats my opinion, and I usually get upset for like 5 minutes when I lose to a donkey play, then I get over it.
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Senior



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always bet on the card I need coming up on the river (or what ever, I've played thousands of hands of poker but never really learned the rules or that much strategy). The odds are better than slot machines. It's way more exciting because I would rather win a few hands then bow out on a huge raise, then to play for three hours and still lose. It's the same amount of enjoyment and the big guys still get my money in the end.
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Steelrails



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any player worth their salt knows bad beats happen and that the poker is about a long-term payoff.
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Seoulio



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
Any player worth their salt knows bad beats happen and that the poker is about a long-term payoff.


and any player worth their salt gets frustrated from time to time when the donkey plays get the payoff, and the good plays get the felt Smile

Played once with my buddy
I had AA

he had K 10 hearts

Flop comes down 9 J Q ( 2 hearts)

So he FLOPS a straight, and he has a draw to a flush and a straight flush.

Turn comes ACE

River comes ACE

He raged like a machine, and on that hand I could not blame him, I'd have been choked on a suck out like that too, but again, for like 5 minutes then I'd be fine, and talk about it for a while
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulio wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Any player worth their salt knows bad beats happen and that the poker is about a long-term payoff.


and any player worth their salt gets frustrated from time to time when the donkey plays get the payoff, and the good plays get the felt Smile

Played once with my buddy
I had AA

he had K 10 hearts

Flop comes down 9 J Q ( 2 hearts)

So he FLOPS a straight, and he has a draw to a flush and a straight flush.

Turn comes ACE

River comes ACE

He raged like a machine, and on that hand I could not blame him, I'd have been choked on a suck out like that too, but again, for like 5 minutes then I'd be fine, and talk about it for a while


I don't see the problem. People are entitled to call, even if it's a poor hand. If they get lucky, them's the breaks. Yes you may have a good hand but if someone has better someone has better.

Swallow hard and keep playing.

If it bothers people that much then they should only play with people of a similar mindset.
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Seoulio



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add that that hand I mentioned we were heads up and I pushed all in after the flop, can not fault the playing from him or me.

Yes people are entitled to call, but I still hate to watch the Donkey suck out, and I hate guys thinking that when they push all in, get a caller with the better hand and suck out that they are the better player.

I do play with like minded people for the most part, I long ago weeded the drunk and or all in pre flop round 1 players from my table.

Regardless I always get choked ( at the cards not the person) when I have better than 90 percent odds and get the suck out.

God knows I have called with weak cards before, but on the same token playing stupid and reckless when you have power moves infront of you, like a nmber of them ,and you KNOW you must be beat is simply bad play and I personally do not like it.

But of course even that depends on how much you have , what round, how close you are to the blinds etc. Sometimes you HAVE to make the call with a 7 high.
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Theme



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Location: Cedar Rapids Iowa

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoulio wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Any player worth their salt knows bad beats happen and that the poker is about a long-term payoff.



If it bothers people that much then they should only play with people of a similar mindset.


That is a good point. When an outsider comes in, and sucks up some pots that "he should not have" tempers are more likely to flair.

I viewed this as childish - and bullying in my case because I was surround by a table of some pretty big boys.

Had to keep my mouth shut as I always have to.

Will always think these big boys were actually that-boys.And sore losers.

For what ? $20 a hundred when you are operating with probably the most disposable income you will have in your life. My brother who makes a 100 grand US a year here in the US would not piss away a $100 on anything unneccessary.

Some people just can't stand to lose; or cant stand to lose to an outsider or a physically smaller outsider.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theme wrote:
Seoulio wrote:
Steelrails wrote:
Any player worth their salt knows bad beats happen and that the poker is about a long-term payoff.



If it bothers people that much then they should only play with people of a similar mindset.


That is a good point. When an outsider comes in, and sucks up some pots that "he should not have" tempers are more likely to flair.

I viewed this as childish - and bullying in my case because I was surround by a table of some pretty big boys.

Had to keep my mouth shut as I always have to.

Will always think these big boys were actually that-boys.And sore losers.

For what ? $20 a hundred when you are operating with probably the most disposable income you will have in your life. My brother who makes a 100 grand US a year here in the US would not piss away a $100 on anything unneccessary.

Some people just can't stand to lose; or cant stand to lose to an outsider or a physically smaller outsider.



The best reply to these kind of complaints (where you win and they say "You played that wrong") is "I play to win...and it works."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no such thing as a wrong play. You play your game and I'll play mine. The winner is the winner because they played their game their way.
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