Korean Job Discussion Forums

[hiddenflask]

my bosses never offered me pension and i'm in my last 2 months of the contract. i feel at this point that if i were to go straight to the pension office and they found out i did this without telling them then they would fire me. they didn't offer it to me for a reason (cheapness). so my visa is good for a month after my contract ends...so i'm just wondering if i can go after my contract is up to backpay in order to avoid weeks of unpleasant confrontations. any ideas?

[lost at sea]

I think if you head to the pension office you will have to pay 50% of all the pension payments and your employer will also pay their half. It should equal 9% of your total year's salary.

After paying your half and after your employer pays their half, you should be able to get the return.

Am I wrong? I assume this would piss off your (ex) employer though.

[nobbyken]

If pension is not in your contract, why would your employer pay 50%?

Is it the law that employers have to pay into a pension?

[Konglishman]

By law, your employer is required to pay into the pension. So, obviously, he is breaking the law. Go talk to someone at the Labor Board about this issue.

[lhasa]

hagwon will say that you're an 'independent contractor' (not an 'employee') and therefore not entitled to NHIC or NPP.

some say that technically an E2 visa holder can't be an 'ir' but nobody in korea cares. i've spoken to NTS about it and they had no problem with schools declaring e2 holders as non-employees.

i've also dealt with the labor board and found them to be unhelpful....but suppose every office / officer is different.

do what you can....not much to lose in the end apart from a reference....weigh the benefits

[lifeinkorea]

You may need them as a reference. If your relationship is sour with them, then maybe try this, but it may not be worth it. You can lose a lot of money just by having to move and get a plane ticket out of the country. Pension is only worth getting in the long run, not these one year "adventures".

[blackjack]

[hiddenflask]

i'm an american and i want to come back to korea for years to come...so it is important that i get this. it is the law, i'm just wondering if anyone knows for sure whether or not i can go and back pay everything after my contract is up. i'm not staying with this school for obvious reasons and our relationship is very sour. i think i'm at the type of school that will fire me in the last month to avoid severance and plane costs. it is disheartening to hear that the board doesn't care...i guess i will just have to see about it.

a co-worker called the pension office today and they told her that the bosses themselves have to start the pension and that we have no control over it and are not allowed to back pay if our boss doesn't want us to. does this sound right or is this just another example of people defending the system over the individual?

[OculisOrbis]

you have lots of time to get back pension from scamming employers. i think its up to 3 years to file claim at pension, but you likely have to pay your share first before they will pursue your former employer.

[lhasa]

NHIC and NPP are more or less connected. if you have been paying for nhic (have the little booklet) then you shouldn't have a problem claiming npp is owed to you once you pay your contribution. if you're not registered with nhic, and have been going through some sort of private health insurance, then you have a much more difficult situation.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[conbon78]

Well I had the same problem. i didn't realize that my employer had to pay into it and wasn't. He had told them that we were part-time, but according to my contract I was full-time. So I filed a petition with the labor board and they went after him for his portion and my portion of the pension. Worked in my favor. He paid right away otherwise he could go to jail. Then he was supposed to collect from me, but I wouldn't pay because he didn't give me my plane ticket. I did all this after my contract ended.

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