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NovaKart · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Location: Iraq

This is probably my biggest pet peeve about Turkey. One thing that I hear sometimes from Turks is how the Great Wall of China was built because of them. While I suppose there might be some truth to this, I think it's really a big stretch. There were tribes some of which may have been Turkic. It's impossible to connect them to the Ottoman Turks and say if they were their ancestors since the Ottoman Turks wouldn't exist until much later. The Turks can refer to a really large group of people, Tatars, Uzbeks, etc. and the Turkic groups that existed at the time of ancient China would have been different. Kind of like comparing Germanic groups like the Ostrogoths and Saxons with their descendents today.

Anyway it just comes across to me as ignorant boasting, especially when it comes from some guy with a bad blowdried 80s haircut and pointy euro-trash shoes which is really popular here now.

Summer Wine · Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River

You do realise that the Chinese of today are probably no more relevant to the idea than the turks of yesterday.

We understand the idea that China thinks its wonderful because it has a history of 5000 yrs or so, regardless of who actually lived those 5000 yrs,

Many countries have a 5000 yr history. Australia has a 40,000 yr history so long as the locals get a say in the matter. Israel has a 7000-12000 yr history, Egypt has a 12000 -14000 yr history.

We can't be absolutely sure that the Hans created the wall, or maybe it was the Chin's or maybe other groups. Smile

5000 yrs is nothing compared to other countires,
even PNG has a 5000 yr+ history,

NovaKart · Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Location: Iraq

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=why-the-turkish-caesar-crucified-the-ecumenical-patriarch-2009-12-25

According to this article, the CHP is against opening the seminary because it could lead the way towards opening more Islamic schools. Interesting how the AKP (the Islamic party) is in favor of it. Of course they can use the excuse of the lack of mosques in Greece and the minaret ban in Switzerland to justify the lack of minority rights in Turkey.