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For people who are thinking of taking a job this year
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ippy



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: For people who are thinking of taking a job this year Reply with quote

Its very important you understand this one thing:

KOREA DOES NOT GIVE YOU A DAY OFF ON A MONDAY IF A NATIONAL HOLIDAY FALLS ON A SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.

This year, i believe, if you work monday to friday, you are getting 8 days off this year (just looked at the calender).

If anyone tells you different in an attempt to make up for the low vacation time ("ah dont worry, theres 15 national holidays so its not so bad"), theyre yanking your chain.

Just a friendly heads up Smile
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2008 was about the same.

It seemed like there were more 4 day weeks than 5 dayers in 2007, though. It all evens out.
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aishiii



Joined: 24 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
2008 was about the same.

It seemed like there were more 4 day weeks than 5 dayers in 2007, though. It all evens out.


How is that evening out?
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think that you get more national holidays than you do in the US (7 total if I remember right). Some years it is better than others, but really who cares. There are a lot of people here that work 6 days a week.

I don't really like going to work either, but to complain about 7 less holidays a year because they fall on the weekend, is a little childish.

Be thankful that you get a job and a free apartment. If Korea sucked so bad, then why are there more teachers every year? In all of my years in Korea, there seems to be a lot more long timers than was in the past. In the late 90's it was rare to meet someone that worked in Korea for more than 2 years. Most people did one tour and went home. Now people are staying for multiple contracts.

Korea isn't the best place to live or work, but it isn't that bad. Just another person finding another reason to complain about. Just go home if it is so bad.
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ippy



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now before you get your little hackles up, have a think... a sincere and genuine think, and ask yourself "is my response of any relevance to what the OP actually wrote? Should i have probably just kept my pointless interjection to myself?"

I ask because this was a point fo pure information that had nothing to do with whether teaching in korea is a good job or not. Its to point out that people will and DO bring up the national vacations (as you have done by the way, i assume youre a recruiter), as a selling point only for people to find out that they do not carry over and they are not getting the amount they thought theyd be getting. Whether or not its a good deal is up to the person coming to decide for their self. Tell you what though, why not set up your own thread to discuss the point you clearly want to make, and stay the hell out of this one.
I swear to god that its knee jerk apologists like you that give normal apologists offering sound and thoughtful advice a bad name.


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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aishiii wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
2008 was about the same.

It seemed like there were more 4 day weeks than 5 dayers in 2007, though. It all evens out.


How is that evening out?


Because some years there are more holidays than others.
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2010, I hear, is also a pretty bad year for holidays. Most fall on non-working days (Sat, Sun).
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

frankly speaking wrote:
why are there more teachers every year? In all of my years in Korea, there seems to be a lot more long timers than was in the past. In the late 90's it was rare to meet someone that worked in Korea for more than 2 years. Most people did one tour and went home. Now people are staying for multiple contracts.


Its a combination of

1) a worsening western economy
2) Korea becoming, very gradually, more comfortable for outsiders.
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ippy



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

proustme wrote:
2010, I hear, is also a pretty bad year for holidays. Most fall on non-working days (Sat, Sun).


You maybe mean 2011 Smile
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aishiii



Joined: 24 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
aishiii wrote:
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
2008 was about the same.

It seemed like there were more 4 day weeks than 5 dayers in 2007, though. It all evens out.


How is that evening out?


Because some years there are more holidays than others.


1) Most people aren't here for years

2) Some years there are the correct number of holidays, and most other years the workers are getting shafted
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proustme



Joined: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Nowon-gu

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean Holidays in 2010

January 1 Solar New Year (Friday)
February 13 Lunar New Year (Saturday)
February 14 Lunar New Year (Sunday)
February 15 Lunar New Year (Monday)
March 1 Independence Movement Day (Monday)
May 5 Children's Day (Wednesday)
May 21 Buddha's Birthday (Friday)
June 6 Memorial Day (Sunday)
July 17 Constitution Day (Saturday)
August 15 Liberation Day (Sunday)
September 21 Chuseok (Tuesday)
September 22 Chuseok (Wednesday)
September 23 Chuseok (Thursday)
October 3 National Foundation Day (Monday)
December 25 Christmas Day (Saturday)

There are 15 holidays a year.

2011: 3 of 15 holidays will on Sat/Sun! Razz Razz Smile
2010: 6 of 15 holiday fall on Sat/Sun. Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad
2009: 8 of 15 holidays fell on Sat/Sun. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
2008: 3 of 15 holidays fell on Sat/Sun. Very Happy
2007: 3 of 15 days fell on Sat/Sun. Cool
2006: 2 of 15 days fell on Sat/Sun. Wink Laughing
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember reading about some bill or something a couple of months ago about Korea adapting a three-day-weekend-ifying holiday thing.

Anybody know if anything happened with that?

2006-7 were the glory days, weren't they? If I remember correctly, I got a whole week off for one chuseok, and one seollal in there. If only I had appreciated it more at the time. I thought it was always going to end up like that!
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ippy



Joined: 25 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sulperman wrote:
I remember reading about some bill or something a couple of months ago about Korea adapting a three-day-weekend-ifying holiday thing.

Anybody know if anything happened with that?

2006-7 were the glory days, weren't they? If I remember correctly, I got a whole week off for one chuseok, and one seollal in there. If only I had appreciated it more at the time. I thought it was always going to end up like that!


me too, and it probably comes up every time a lot of holidays land on the weekend. Then theres a lot of talk, some delaying, a bit of burying, and finally the next year everyone has a proper holiday so it seems like a non issue again Smile
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frankly speaking



Joined: 23 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ippy, I have been on this board for a while. I doubt that anyone would call me an apologist.

Your thread is a little ridiculous because teachers actually work less days this year than they did in 2009. So yes, it is worth it.

I find it ironic how whiny sucka** wimps who complain all the time call anyone who doesn't an apologist. I just don't agree that complaining about how the holidays land on a calendar is a reason to wonder if working is worth it.

9 National holidays is still better than what most people get in the US. I don't think that it is that bad.

Can you really blame a school or a country because their national holidays fall on a weekend.

I never got monday off when Christmas was on a weekend when I worked in the US.

Do you really think that having the Monday off is really necessary? I am grateful for long holidays like Chuesok and Solal, when I get them.

I don't see how my comments make you assume that I am recruiter. And I don't see how my comments are any less valid that someone else's. I also don't think that you own the right to a thread, commanding someone not to post.

Or do you think that you are in a dictatorship where everyone needs to believe in what you do.

You newbs are real high and mighty.

FYI{ calendar isn't spelled with an e. calender)
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
teachers actually work less days this year than they did in 2009


Please. 'Day' is a countable noun and should be used with a countable quantifier. It's 'fewer days'. I wouldn't have brought it up but you started getting picky and I kind of agree with Ippy. He was talking about people giving others the wrong impression, not saying 'don't come and work in Korea'.
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