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For Those Who Dislike Techno - Henry Rollins Rant
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Dev



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: For Those Who Dislike Techno - Henry Rollins Rant Reply with quote

Here's Henry Rollins on why he hates techno. Funny stuff (if you agree with him).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyRDDOpKaLM
For those unfamiliar with Henry, he was an ass-kicking vocalist with the punk band Black Flag and later, Rollins Band.

Watch the reaction from the audience. Smile
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The state of music today.
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Dev



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and here's Henry on the state of movies today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKCohYN89Fs
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting to hear from someone who never really grew up
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Fat_Elvis



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like techno and I still found this funny. I hope someone samples it and puts it in a song. Smile

Still it the usual rockist sh*te, the music has no 'balls', is not manly enough. And it seems a bit rich for a former punk musician to claim techno has no musical merit, considering the lack of musicianship in a lot of punk. Plus techno, in part, came out of punk - see Throbbing Gristle, Caberet Voltaire, 80s new wave and industrial etc. The same DIY punk aesthetic applied to electronics.


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morrisonhotel



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: For Those Who Dislike Techno - Henry Rollins Rant Reply with quote

Dev wrote:

For those unfamiliar with Henry, he was an ass-kicking vocalist with the punk band Black Flag and later, Rollins Band.


He certainly assaulted many people from the stage. He wasn't (and isn't) a particularly good vocalist.

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And it seems a bit rich for a former punk musician to claim techno has no musical merit, considering the lack of musicianship in a lot of techno


Did you mean punk? The idea that punk lacks musicianship is elitist crap. Anyone who ever says that to me, I direct them straight to The Skids. Incredible composition.
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David Lee Roth



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta agree with him for the most part. I'd rather listen to another Neil Young wanna-be strumming his version of Hey Ya than some DJ posing as a musician. I have yet to see a really good DJ; someone that actually makes music as opposed to ripping tunes off of other people and laying down some ridiculous and repetitive backbeat.

If I had to see one DJ that would completely change my view, who would that one soul be?
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never cared for Henry Rollins whether he was shouting or speaking.
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conrad2



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Techno" music is fine in a club at 3 am drunk or on drugs. Thats it.
Music should conjure up emotions, have some meaning, take you back to a happy time in your life, "The sound track of your life" if you will.
Imagine you are an old man sitting with your wife on your porch, watching your grandkids play. "Remember Dear, the night we met, the song they were playing?" "OONSA OONSA OONSA< BOM BOM BOM."
Wasnt it John Lennon who said "Just give BOM BOM BOM BOM a chance."
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re:cursive



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fat_Elvis wrote:
I like techno and I still found this funny. I hope someone samples it and puts it in a song. Smile

It has been done. It even features 'Techno Viking'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf13MmZIcLs

It seems like this old rant of his will never die. I'm staying out of it this time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sergio Stefanuto



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In literally all genres of music, most of the music in that genre is rubbish, but maybe 5% or 10% of it is golden - jazz, classical, techno, metal, hiphop, everything. I'm far from an expert, but some techno is astonishing and some of the best music I've ever heard.

And yeah - Black Flag and Rollins' Band do nothing for me at all. And Rollins wasn't funny or interesting or profound at all in that vid.
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Dev



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, I don't like techno because the human component isn't obvious. There are no organic (natural) instruments like guitars to pluck and drums to hit.

Even electronic bands like Depeche Mode at least have a living breathing singer.

So the end effect from techno is quite cold. If someone told me that a computer were randomly putting sounds together without a human working the controls, I would believe it.

For me, techno (like Hollywood sci-fi movies) is mostly about technology and less about art. Okay, if you like that kind of thing.
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Dave Mohammad



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depeche, New Order, Pet Shop Boys. All of those managed to straddle dance and rock/pop.
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itaewonguy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

conrad2 wrote:
"Techno" music is fine in a club at 3 am drunk or on drugs. Thats it.
Music should conjure up emotions, have some meaning, take you back to a happy time in your life, "The sound track of your life" if you will.
Imagine you are an old man sitting with your wife on your porch, watching your grandkids play. "Remember Dear, the night we met, the song they were playing?" "OONSA OONSA OONSA< BOM BOM BOM."
Wasnt it John Lennon who said "Just give BOM BOM BOM BOM a chance."


sure this is true.. but that doesn't mean a person has to be conformed to only one genre! sure many couples have that song.. the song the were making out to in the car, the song that was playing in the cafe on the first date which was the moment you asked her to marry you..etc..
most times it would be a vocal driven track..

but still that doesn't mean you can't slip on the CAFE DEL MAR or the Ministry of sound anthem remix album of 2001 when you are 65 and remember those days...

sure some techno songs have no name! have no melody to remember..
but MANY do.. come on you gonna tell me you never heard of SANDSTORM? some tracks stick out in a place in time.... many don't!
robert miles -children for example.. I rememebr the first time I heard that... back in 1994...ohh the memories...hahahhaha
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