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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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Now that you mention it, when I first got here in September 2007, there was one guy in our group who said he had not seen one Korean woman who he thought was that attractive. Not one!!
Now I could see him saying something like he did not find Korean woman as attractive as western women in general. But to say he had not seen one single attractive one?? How picky can one guy get? |
Did he just not go out? The very first night I went out drinking in Korea I met a phenomenally beautiful Korean girl. I'm, so far, more attracted to western girls, but there are very clearly a lot of very good looking Korean females. |
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Sector7G
Joined: 24 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
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Now that you mention it, when I first got here in September 2007, there was one guy in our group who said he had not seen one Korean woman who he thought was that attractive. Not one!!
Now I could see him saying something like he did not find Korean woman as attractive as western women in general. But to say he had not seen one single attractive one?? How picky can one guy get? |
Did he just not go out? The very first night I went out drinking in Korea I met a phenomenally beautiful Korean girl. I'm, so far, more attracted to western girls, but there are very clearly a lot of very good looking Korean females. |
Yeah, that was my point.
I remember he said he liked the girls back home on his college track team. |
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Street Magic
Joined: 23 Sep 2009
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone ever see this study?:
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/10/05/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/
If you read the whole thing, you can tell the folks at OKCupid know their statistics; they were able to pretty conclusively establish that racism is still widely prevalent in the realm of dating. It becomes clear it isn't just a matter of some people wanting the exotic or some people wanting the familiar once you see the blatant one way trends that showed up. |
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dirving
Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| Sector7G wrote: |
Now that you mention it, when I first got here in September 2007, there was one guy in our group who said he had not seen one Korean woman who he thought was that attractive. Not one!!
Now I could see him saying something like he did not find Korean woman as attractive as western women in general. But to say he had not seen one single attractive one?? How picky can one guy get? |
Did he just not go out? The very first night I went out drinking in Korea I met a phenomenally beautiful Korean girl. I'm, so far, more attracted to western girls, but there are very clearly a lot of very good looking Korean females. |
You could say that again! I've had a few or five. Nice times for both of us. The cultural gap, though, is too much in my opinion to stake a claim as it were. |
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Dude Ranch

Joined: 04 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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From stuffwhitepeoplelike.com Asian Girls
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/20/11-asian-girls/
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95% of white males have at one point in their lives, experienced yellow fever. Many factors have contributed to this phenomenon such as guilt from head taxes, internment camps, dropping the Nuclear bomb and the Viet Nam War . This exchange works both ways as asian girls have a tendency to go for white guys. (White girls never go for asian guys. Bruce Lee and Paul Kariya�s dad are the only recorded instances in modern history). Asian girls often to do this to get back at their strict traditional fathers. There is also the option of dating black guys, but they know deep down that this would give their non-english speaking grandmother(s) a heart attack.
White men love asian women so much that they will go to extremes such as stating that Sandra Oh is sexy, teaching English in Asia, playing in a coed volleyball league, or attending institutions such as UBC or UCLA (please note that both schools� colors of �blue� and �yellow� are intentional also the �A� in �UCLA� stand for �Asian� while the �B� in �UBC� stands for �Billion� try and figure out what the rest of the letters stand for). Another factor that draws white guys to asian women is that white women are jealous of them.
Take for instance the fact that asian women well into their 30s and 40s retain teen / college girl looks without the help of botox, yoga or a trendy diet (future posts). Asian women also avoid key white women characteristics such as having a mid life crisis, divorce, and hobbies that don�t involve taking care of the children (also future posts). Should white guy / asian girl marry, they produce hybrids that are atheistically pleasing, but are very annoying. This practice is also a means by which white people can catch up to the asian peoples in the population race, as most of the hybrids often act white rather than asian. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Wesley Snipes and Nicolas Cage were once millionaires many times over before they got bankrupted by those gold digging 69ing 49ers who moved to California for a gold rush. Maybe Woody Allen and Michael Cena are better off. I guess those are classic examples of the old saying, "Some women make good girlfriends, others make good wives."
When a guy is with a lady of the same race, nobody seems to care. But interracial relationships seem to constantly be under the microscope. There are millions of white men with ugly white girlfriends and wives, but the white lady somehow has only noticed the white guys with ugly Asian girlfriends. That says a lot.
I really think race is why Tiger Woods has been in the news so much. Professional athletes cheat on their wives all the time! Even when Magic Johnson announced that he had HIV, he wasn't the lightning rod for the outrage that Woods has been. Why? Because Tiger Woods has a blonde haired blue eyed wife and Magic's wife is black. Jeff Gordon was the top driver in NASCAR when he cheated on his white wife and nobody seemed to care. But rednecks will not shut up their complaining about the Tiger Woods affairs.
In Korea, I've seen foreign teachers with beautiful girlfriends and wives of various races. An African-American couple lived a couple of floors above me in Seoul and I thought they both looked like Abercrombie & Fitch models. I've seen white guys with beautiful Korean wives and girlfriends, some with not-so-pretty Korean wives and girlfriends, some with beautiful white wives and girlfriends, some with not-so-pretty white wives and girlfriends. I've seen the whole spectrum. But, ultimately, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and these guys seemed happy with their women and I'm happy for each and every one of them.
Honestly, with so many model-quality women working as prostitutes in Korea, I think that gives men in Korea the motivation to look for other factors in their girlfriends, such as personality, brains, and common interests. Beauty becomes less of a factor because that is the one quality that is readily available 24/7/365 in every neighborhood for 70,000 won. That doesn't mean that looks aren't important! It just means that personality and brains become more appreciated, unlike in our homelands where we desperately chase any good-looking bimbo with complete disregard to other important qualities that she does or doesn't possess. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I really think race is why Tiger Woods has been in the news so much. Professional athletes cheat on their wives all the time! Even when Magic Johnson announced that he had HIV, he wasn't the lightning rod for the outrage that Woods has been. Why? Because Tiger Woods has a blonde haired blue eyed wife and Magic's wife is black. Jeff Gordon was the top driver in NASCAR when he cheated on his white wife and nobody seemed to care. But rednecks will not shut up their complaining about the Tiger Woods affairs.
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Totally disagree. First, pro athletes do often cheat on their wives, but not pro golfers. NBA players have had a reputation for promiscuity for a long time. Remember the boasts of Wilt? But having multiple affairs is pretty big news in the PGA. Also, anything Woods does is big news whether good or bad or neutral. And where did you get the idea that rednecks are not shutting up about Tiger? Never heard that before. In fact, the black community seems to have a lot more to say about these affairs. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/34288353/ns/sports-golf/
Interesting quotes from the above article:
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Amid all the headlines generated by Tiger Woods' troubles � the puzzling car accident, the suggestions of marital turmoil and multiple mistresses � little attention has been given to the race of the women linked with the world's greatest golfer.
Except in the black community.
When three white women were said to be romantically involved with Woods in addition to his blonde, Swedish wife, blogs, airwaves and barbershops started humming, and Woods' already tenuous standing among many blacks took a beating.
On the nationally syndicated Tom Joyner radio show, Woods was the butt of jokes all week.
"Thankfully, Tiger, you didn't marry a black woman. Because if a sister caught you running around with a bunch of white hoochie-mamas," one parody suggests in song, she would have castrated him.
"The Grinch's Theme Song" didn't stop there: "The question everyone in America wants to ask you is, how many white women does one brother waaant?" |
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"There is a call for loyalty that is stronger in some ways than in other racial communities," said the author of the study, George Yancey, a sociology professor at the University of North Texas and author of the book "Just Don't Marry One."
The color of one's companion has long been a major measure of "blackness" � which is a big reason why the biracial Barack Obama was able to fend off early questions about his black authenticity.
"Had Barack had a white wife, I would have thought twice about voting for him," Johnson Cooper said. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see why Tiger's sport would make a difference in how people view his cheating. He's still a human being with a sex drive. If anything, the fact that his life revolves around using a club to knock white wads into 18 holes would help explain why he has 18 women in his life.
Sportscasters aren't vocally criticizing Woods much, because they don't want or need a visit from Rev. Sharpton. However, I've heard so many cruel things from so many people in the general public, and it's non-stop. They ignore the fact that he he's a millionaire 1000+ times over and how money opens a lot of doors/legs when it cums to women. I haven't heard any anti-Asian slurs, but I've heard a lot of anti-black slurs. People also say she could've done a lot better than to marry Tiger Woods, even though I think Tiger Woods could've done better. He's already proven it with a couple of his girlfriends.
One reason Jeff Gordon came to mind is because I was visiting my sister in Charlotte last month, where Jeff Gordon lives. He actually has an apartment in her building. Anyway, the Tiger Woods story was big news in the USA, and then I went to the UK and France for three weeks. On the way back, I had a connecting flight to Knoxville at the Charlotte airport with seven hours between flights. Well, five hours after customs finally allowed me to enter my own country.
After a while, I noticed one bar had the Oregon State versus BYU football game and a Florida basketball game on TV, plus I was bored plus I was hungry, plus I'm an alcoholic, so I decided to have a bite and a few drinks. Other customers were STILL talking about the Tiger Woods affairs as if the story had just happened yesterday and saying a bunch of racial BS. Ironically, one of Jeff Gordon's race cars was on display at that bar there inside the Charlotte airport.
I'm not sure why Gordon gets a free pass. Like golf, NASCAR is a sport where the athletes aren't known to be prolific scorers when it comes to extramarital affairs and Charlotte is in the Bible Belt with major highways and a library named after Rev. Billy Graham. In Gordon's case, maybe guys were shocked that he actually gets more women than they do, after all of the gay jokes that have been told about him over the years. Or maybe tapping pre-preggers Britney's ass is "understandable" even in the Bible Belt. Or maybe Gordon is white and his first wife is white, so rednecks don't want to say that Brooke Gordon married into the wrong race the way they do with the wife of Woods. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see why Tiger's sport would make a difference in how people view his cheating. |
It doesn't, but it does make a difference in how news worthy it is. Lots of nobodies cheat on their spouses and it doesn't make the news. Woods is different-he happens to be about the highest profile, most highly-paid athlete in the world. Everything he does is news.
As for the rest of your post, you seem to be focused on "rednecks" a lot. Well, if you hang out in redneck bars and follow NASCAR, you're bound to hear some stupid things. But that doesn't mean that those people are influencing the media. Tiger's affairs are a big deal because Tiger is a big deal. I haven't heard anyone talk the way you say you've heard people talk. Perhaps you should be more selective about where you hang out. |
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Reggie
Joined: 21 Sep 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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I don't watch NASCAR and the only way I could get a flight home was to connect at the Charlotte airport. But even outside of the airport, most people in my section of the USA are Christians who are vocally opposed to interracial marriages and even more opposed to gay marriages. They think every relationship should be male/female of the same race. Even the churches are racially segregated. There are black churches, white churches, Korean churches, and so on.
While Tiger Woods is very famous worldwide, I believe Michael Jordan was a much bigger deal in the USA at the peak of his basketball career. Yet, very, very little was said when he was cheating on his wife.
This article about former University of Kentucky basketball star Rex Chapman says a lot about how interracial relationships are viewed in the United States.
http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publish/Basketball_6/Chapman_Racial_Taboos_Affected_Stay_At_Kentucky_712_printer.shtml To summarize the article, University of Kentucky officials told Chapman, a white guy, to keep his interracial dating confidential. One Kentucky fan called his mother in the middle of the night to bitch about Rex's interracial dating. Someone even etched "[Mod Edit]lover" into his car. It prompted Chapman to go pro after his sophomore season.
That's the kind of drama that surrounds interracial dating in the southeast and perhaps elsewhere in the USA. I'm a nobody and a few years ago, I quit a job where I had worked for six years in large part because of harrassment I received from coworkers and mangagement about interracial dating.
There seems to be tension about it up north too. Madoka, the OP of this thread, is a gyopo from New York and seems disturbed about non-Koreans dating Koreans, judging by the number of threads he/she posts about a lot of foreigners having ugly Korean girlfriends. He/she never says anything about the Korean guys who have ugly Korean girlfriends even though it's obviously not an uncommon sight in Korea. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| I don't watch NASCAR and the only way I could get a flight home was to connect at the Charlotte airport. But even outside of the airport, most people in my section of the USA are Christians who are vocally opposed to interracial marriages and even more opposed to gay marriages. They think every relationship should be male/female of the same race. . |
Um, what section would that be? Because I've never heard anyone talk that way my whole life and I regularly went to church the entire time I lived in the States. |
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Clockout
Joined: 23 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| A preference is not necessarily a fetish. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:34 am Post subject: |
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I don't watch NASCAR and the only way I could get a flight home was to connect at the Charlotte airport. But even outside of the airport, most people in my section of the USA are Christians who are vocally opposed to interracial marriages and even more opposed to gay marriages. They think every relationship should be male/female of the same race. Even the churches are racially segregated. There are black churches, white churches, Korean churches, and so on.
That's the kind of drama that surrounds interracial dating in the southeast and perhaps elsewhere in the USA. I'm a nobody and a few years ago, I quit a job where I had worked for six years in large part because of harrassment I received from coworkers and mangagement about interracial dating.
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Sorry to hear that! During my time in what must be quite near the place you are from, I encountered all kinds of crazies, but not a single one gave a flying flip who I was dating. There are black churches, white churches, Korean churches, Egyptian Coptic churches, and a lot of very mixed evangelical, Catholic, and American Orthodox churches.
If someone were to give me and/or my girlfriend there any kind of grief, we would quite proudly stand up to them, save for the extremely slim chance we would be martyred for the cause.
Racist wackos are a diminishing segment of the population and the less fanatical conservative elements (lemonade party housewives, overweight rural used car dealers, and roofers) are quite steadily opening up to "alternative" life styles thanks to repeated television indoctrination.
The only harassment we dealt with were the guys trying to hit on her when I wasn't around. |
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SeoulMan99

Joined: 02 Aug 2009 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| If average or below average looking Western men can get decent looking women because they are white, then attractive Western men must have it made in the shade in Korea. |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Just a quick word about Tiger. It had nothing to do with color but about how everyone viewed him as such a great guy who seemed so honest and pure. |
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