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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:39 pm    Post subject: resignation letter at end of contract? Reply with quote

I have just about 2 months left on my current contract and by mutual agreement it will not be renewed.

I was then asked to write a resignation letter like the other teacher, who left halfway through his contract.
Is this standard practice? I've written one before because I wanted a release letter but other times I just left at the end of the contract.

Why would I have to "resign" when the contract is for a specified term?
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DosEquisXX



Joined: 04 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't write a resignation letter. Play your contract out.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just do your job for two months and leave.

If they ask again say you forgot about it.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them there is a difference between RESIGNING and RE-SIGNING. Make sure they understand what they are really asking you.

If they still want to push it, then walk them through the contract agreements:

1) severance, at end of contract
2) flight home, at end of contract
3) school pays airfare if you leave within 10 days after contract ends

By "resigning" or "re-signing", you put off getting this money. So, in either case if they don't know the difference, you don't want to do it.

After that, simply tell them "I am not stupid".
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for replies

They're keen and eager for the resignation letter.

I prepared a "note" that says:

I acknowledge I was employed at xxx from (date) to (date) and that xxx will not renew my contract for 2010/2011
Therefore my last teaching day will be 28 February2010 as per the contract.

They're insistent bunch so ignoring them won't get me far
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't put exact dates, that's like incriminating yourself. Why do they need any paper? If you are finishing the full year, then the visa and contract is all that you need to speak for yourself.

They are trying to snooker you into something so they can argue that you didn't work a full year.

As a side note, when issues came up that needed clarification, I have in the past copied the contract I signed and highlighted pertinent parts in the contract. I suggest you do this instead of writing up anything new. If they ask for something else, print the same thing out on different colored paper. They'll get the hint Razz
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
Don't put exact dates, that's like incriminating yourself. Why do they need any paper? If you are finishing the full year, then the visa and contract is all that you need to speak for yourself.

They are trying to snooker you into something so they can argue that you didn't work a full year.

As a side note, when issues came up that needed clarification, I have in the past copied the contract I signed and highlighted pertinent parts in the contract. I suggest you do this instead of writing up anything new. If they ask for something else, print the same thing out on different colored paper. They'll get the hint Razz


Lol ok, I'll try it Razz
Monday blue paper, tuesday pink paper ...
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorpiocandy wrote:
Thanks for replies

They're keen and eager for the resignation letter.


There's always a reason someone's "keen and eager." And it quite likely isn't for your benefit. Ignore them. There is absolutely no valid reason for you to present any kind of letter to them. Public school renewals are accomplished by the foreign teacher submitting a renewal application. Hagweon renewals are accomplished by the boss and you signing a new contract.

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I prepared a "note" that says:


Don't sign it. Shred it. Throw it away somewhere far, far from your hagweon.

Quote:
I acknowledge I was employed at xxx from (date) to (date) and that xxx will not renew my contract for 2010/2011
Therefore my last teaching day will be 28 February2010 as per the contract.


They must provide you, upon your request, a certificate stating the dates you were employed. There is no valid reason for you to provide them anything in writing.

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They're insistent bunch so ignoring them won't get me far


As long as ignoring them gets you into that magic last month, you're golden. Just ignore them until then. Under no circumstances should you sign anything at all that even smacks of you quitting--even if the quitting is on the last day of the contract.
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hochhasd



Joined: 05 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superuberbob wrote:
Don't write a resignation letter. Play your contract out.



I thought there is a part on the contract that says you have to give the school written notice if you are going to re-sign within 2 months before the end of the contract? Confused
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you have to give the school written notice if you are going to re-sign within 2 months before the end of the contract?


It could be in the contract, but I never had that. I remember it simply stating that you would decide. Just tell them you will or will not. It doesn't have to be in writing.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just looked and found this:

"2. The written notification of renewal or termination of Employment shall be provided two months (60 days) prior to the expiration of Contract. "

So it is them that has to give you it, not you to them.
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hochhasd



Joined: 05 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lifeinkorea wrote:
I just looked and found this:

"2. The written notification of renewal or termination of Employment shall be provided two months (60 days) prior to the expiration of Contract. "

So it is them that has to give you it, not you to them.




Is there a word (s) saying employer or school will give written notification of renewal or temination? I thought(but can be wrong) if the NT is not staying he/she has to give notice and the school gives 2 months notice if they are going to re-sign you? Confused
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My contract says:

" The term of employment shall commence on march 16 2009 and end on February 28 2010.

The renewal of this contract is dependent upon mutual agreement between the employer and employee at least 2 months prior to contract expiration date."

So we had our talk on Monday 4 January. According to these terms neither one of us has to do anything if we don't want to renew. If we DO want to renew we both have to agree.

I'm in my notice period so I don't really know what they're on about. I think it's just someone who's inept at Labour law.

Thanks for the replies. Initially I was going to semi-comply with their request and give written acknowledgement that neither one of us wanted to renew the contract and have them provide a similar letter, but after reading your replies and rethinking it myself, I don't see the need.

The contract terminates on 28 February, then there is nothing more to be done.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorpiocandy wrote:
My contract says:

" The term of employment shall commence on march 16 2009 and end on February 28 2010.


If you don't stick at the job for an entire year (16 March 2009 to 15 March 2010), they don't have to fork over the severance pay. If they do give it to you, you're one mightly lucky person.
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scorpiocandy



Joined: 27 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
scorpiocandy wrote:
My contract says:

" The term of employment shall commence on march 16 2009 and end on February 28 2010.


If you don't stick at the job for an entire year (16 March 2009 to 15 March 2010), they don't have to fork over the severance pay. If they do give it to you, you're one mightly lucky person.


Yea the contract is a bit weird. February 27th is the last teaching day and vacation is till March 15th.

My contract says 4 weeks vacation, 2 weeks in September and 2 in March. My payday is on the 15th of each month.
So technically the last two weeks are paid vacation days, but you're right. It should have said that the contract expires on march 15th not Feb 28th.

It's the Language Institute of a university and I don't think anyone is really trying to "play" me. Then again I could be wrong.
I'll let you know Smile
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