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What would you do if all esl jobs here disappreared?? |
Go home and get a job there. No biggie!! |
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Go home, back to school, or travel for a few months. I have quite a bit of money saved. |
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I would be in deep kimchi. I could not get a job at home easily and I have no money saved. |
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Find an ESL job in another country like China or Japan. |
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Stop with the doom and gloom. This could NEVER happen here. |
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kalbi
Joined: 27 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:46 am Post subject: What would U do if ESL jobs disappeared b/c of the economy? |
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****Please vote even if you find this unlikely.***
Working/living in Korea has its challenges but what would you do if suddenly ESL jobs dried up and you had to leave Korea?? What if there was an economic downturn here and all ESL jobs disappeared in a matter of 6 months??
I know that this seems far-fetched.... BUT....no one thought the gravy train in Dubai would have ended either. Over 100,000 expats have lost their jobs with the economic downturn in Dubai and have had to return to their home countries. The article linked to below explains the challenges faced by one such expat who formerly lived/worked in Dubai.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34762339/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/page/2/
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Olivencia
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Mom and Dad......can I come back home? |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't be on the list of non-essential employees. I'm just that good. |
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crossmr

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Many koreans will tell you that ESL is like food. Regardless of the economy it is seen as a necessity. During a good economy they want to expand business prospect abroad during a bad economy they want to make themselves more marketable.
Doesn't mean the industry is bullet-proof here, or that you'll always be able to command plane tickets, apartments and 50,000W/hour privates, but the industry isn't going anywhere.
Those who want to work will be able to. |
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Thiuda

Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Religion ist f�r Sklaven geschaffen, f�r Wesen ohne Geist.
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Jobs don't just disappear, the market simply becomes more competitive. So, while you still have a job, work on improving your qualifications; do a cert, diploma or an online MA. You'll become a better teacher and more employable. |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't see the market disappearing, but I do see it shrinking one day!
wont be long before Korea goes the extra step towards obsession with English and switches its school curriculum to full immersion or full English.
If it goes full English.. then School teachers, which is still a desired occupation for koreans will have to have high English scores, and be fluent speakers.. if this happens then we will see probably 90% of hakwons close down and turned into Korean hakwons..
centers will open for teaching English to adults, or people who wish to enter the education market as teachers so natives will probably be teaching there.. but children hakwons as we know it.. will be no more!
so the korean students will learn Korean in their houses growing up, and study English in public schools, and then mothers will send their kids to Korean hakwons for better education in Korean... that means the 40.000 teachers currently in Korea legals and illegals.. will be packing their bags!
ohhh or forced to work for Gpik under not so good conditions..
Im sure every public school with have a foreigner there for something..
but thats about it.. so the market as we know it will be no more..
my crystal ball tells me that china will follow in the foot steps of korea and having a booming hakwon business for English.. so don't worry folks
there will still be a boss to exploit the native! hahhhaha I just don't see it happening in korea 30 years from now.. |
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Olivencia
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Full immersion or full English? Maybe...but don't you think the thought of it would be a stab in the heart in regards to their strong (misguided?) cultural identity with their langauge? Just wondering. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I see the market here fading gradually as schools replace natives with fluent Koreans. Although.. it will take some time, because they are not good at utilising resources effectively.
At my school there are 2 teachers with excellent (and I mean outstanding) english. Neither of them have been given the english teaching job due to staff politics. Instead, they keep throwing teachers at it who can barely string 2 words together.
There are also many very fluent koreans who would do a great job and want to teach, but they can't get in because the new qualification exam is impossibly difficult. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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English language teaching in Vietnam or Indonesia or any of a number of countries with a thriving ESL industry in Europe and South America. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Several years back, there was an article in either the Korea Herald or the Korea Times in which stated that the two biggest, multibillion-won "recession-proof" industries in Korea are ESL and prostitution.
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kalbi
Joined: 27 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:17 pm Post subject: Unlikely.. |
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OP here...I agree that this scenario is very unlikely.
However, this is meant to poll the options of teachers rather than the likelihood that this could in fact happen.
I must say though that while I agree ESL would be very recession-proof, and many Koreans think ESL to be like food, if the choice was between food on the table and ESL, food would win out. |
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mc_jc

Joined: 13 Aug 2009 Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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I must say though that while I agree ESL would be very recession-proof, and many Koreans think ESL to be like food, if the choice was between food on the table and ESL, food would win out. |
Excellent observation.
However, the average Korean office worker or businessman believes that to "put food on the table", they must improve their English proficiency. |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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mc_jc wrote: |
Several years back, there was an article in either the Korea Herald or the Korea Times in which stated that the two biggest, multibillion-won "recession-proof" industries in Korea is ESL and prostitution. |
I really wish I had seen that article; it'd be a great discussion topic in one of my classes.
On topic: I'm half-way through getting an MA in this field and still paying undergrad loans, so not working is not an option and switching careers is more difficult the more you specialize in one particular field. I'd go to Japan to teach. |
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