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Old Gil



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:36 am    Post subject: What Makes a Great Teacher? Reply with quote

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/201001/good-teaching



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Right away, certain patterns emerged. First, great teachers tended to set big goals for their students. They were also perpetually looking for ways to improve their effectiveness. For example, when Farr called up teachers who were making remarkable gains and asked to visit their classrooms, he noticed he�d get a similar response from all of them: �They�d say, �You�re welcome to come, but I have to warn you�I am in the middle of just blowing up my classroom structure and changing my reading workshop because I think it�s not working as well as it could.� When you hear that over and over, and you don�t hear that from other teachers, you start to form a hypothesis.� Great teachers, he concluded, constantly reevaluate what they are doing.


I think this quote is very telling as to why English education can be so frustrating in this country. We are simply not given to leverage to re evaluate and shake up our classes, just to serve as a dog and pony to parade before the parents. Anyway a very good article.
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: What Makes a Great Teacher? Reply with quote

Old Gil wrote:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/201001/good-teaching



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Right away, certain patterns emerged. First, great teachers tended to set big goals for their students. They were also perpetually looking for ways to improve their effectiveness. For example, when Farr called up teachers who were making remarkable gains and asked to visit their classrooms, he noticed he�d get a similar response from all of them: �They�d say, �You�re welcome to come, but I have to warn you�I am in the middle of just blowing up my classroom structure and changing my reading workshop because I think it�s not working as well as it could.� When you hear that over and over, and you don�t hear that from other teachers, you start to form a hypothesis.� Great teachers, he concluded, constantly reevaluate what they are doing.


I think this quote is very telling as to why English education can be so frustrating in this country. We are simply not given to leverage to re evaluate and shake up our classes, just to serve as a dog and pony to parade before the parents. Anyway a very good article.


...nice find Old Gil...good passage out of that article.
I liked this line as well...
"Strong teachers insist that effective teaching is neither mysterious nor magical. It is neither a function of dynamic personality nor dramatic performance".
There is a long list of factors contributing to being a great teacher...I believe a passion for teaching and the willingness to continue learning new methods and techniques for teaching are high on the list.
I think DD started a thread about this topic not that long ago.
...onward and upwards Wink
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

relentless effort,
developing a good rapport with the students
and designing and constantly adapting lessons on the fly.
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Cuaba



Joined: 10 Jan 2010
Location: New York

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not drinking too much before class. Smile
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kabrams



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post.

Like Old Gil said, however, a lot of us are not allowed to change much in our classroom...and what we are allowed to change can only be pushed so far.

I try to change things and everyone says "No, too hard." And now I find that I, too, have just quit, because even if the school says "Yes, go ahead!" the students have been taught to "sit down and repeat" and not actually use their brains or critically think about new information I'm presenting them.

I mean, I actually have to put pencils in the hands of 4th grade students.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are several schools of thought:

1)A good teacher comes to work with a good solid lesson plan and nice materials for the kids. Sticking to the plan is a must- If your plan is right, then you must adhere to it. Adjustments may be made, but the overall plan is sound and must be "believed in". A solid background in education is a must.

2)A good teacher establishes a rapport with the kids. Each student and class is different, the teacher must respond to each different situation accordingly. A passion for teaching is a must.

3)A good teacher ensures classroom discipline and a focused lesson. The teacher is not be loved or admired, just obeyed. A disruptive classroom is a danger to the students and the teacher. If students do not respect the classroom, they will not respect the lessons being taught. A clear system of rewards and punishments is essential.

4)A good teacher makes things funs and exciting. A teacher must stand out from all the minutae students are bombarded with. A disinterested student is a disengaged student. What is the point of learning if it is so boring that it ends up forgotten?

5)A good teacher succesfully navigates the minefields of parents and bureacracy and keeps their sanity intact. If your constantly worried about your boss or the parents , you can't focus on your students.

6)A good teacher must be able to see the long-road. If students are bored or disinterested one lesson, that is no reason to change everything. The end result is most important. OR a teacher should just focus on the end and be willing to be flexible along the way. Either way, the end is the target, not that day of class.

7)Teaching isn't just what is in the book, or even the topic at hand. Teachers are also their to impart moral education as well as general knowledge and to integrate their lessons with the other subjects being taught at the school. Teaching should not just a be a collection of individual subjects, but rather an integrated curriculum that is interconnected.

As a students some of the best teachers I've had have been boring and taught a very "dry" style. Others have been jerks. Some have been fun and exciting. Others have taught straight from the book. Some have thrown the book away.

The above examples illustrate some of the strains of teaching I have encountered. Indeed, at times I've followed each strain to a degree.
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steelrails wrote:
There are several schools of thought:

1)A good teacher comes to work with a good solid lesson plan and nice materials for the kids. Sticking to the plan is a must- If your plan is right, then you must adhere to it. Adjustments may be made, but the overall plan is sound and must be "believed in". A solid background in education is a must.

2)A good teacher establishes a rapport with the kids. Each student and class is different, the teacher must respond to each different situation accordingly. A passion for teaching is a must.

3)A good teacher ensures classroom discipline and a focused lesson. The teacher is not be loved or admired, just obeyed. A disruptive classroom is a danger to the students and the teacher. If students do not respect the classroom, they will not respect the lessons being taught. A clear system of rewards and punishments is essential.

4)A good teacher makes things funs and exciting. A teacher must stand out from all the minutae students are bombarded with. A disinterested student is a disengaged student. What is the point of learning if it is so boring that it ends up forgotten?

5)A good teacher succesfully navigates the minefields of parents and bureacracy and keeps their sanity intact. If your constantly worried about your boss or the parents , you can't focus on your students.

6)A good teacher must be able to see the long-road. If students are bored or disinterested one lesson, that is no reason to change everything. The end result is most important. OR a teacher should just focus on the end and be willing to be flexible along the way. Either way, the end is the target, not that day of class.

7)Teaching isn't just what is in the book, or even the topic at hand. Teachers are also their to impart moral education as well as general knowledge and to integrate their lessons with the other subjects being taught at the school. Teaching should not just a be a collection of individual subjects, but rather an integrated curriculum that is interconnected.

As a students some of the best teachers I've had have been boring and taught a very "dry" style. Others have been jerks. Some have been fun and exciting. Others have taught straight from the book. Some have thrown the book away.

The above examples illustrate some of the strains of teaching I have encountered. Indeed, at times I've followed each strain to a degree.


Spot on.
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SanchoPanza



Joined: 10 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuaba wrote:
Not drinking too much before class. Smile


Haha, depends what you mean. Our head teacher had a birthday a
while back and we went drinkin'. Serious like. The director of the
school paid for everything. We were faced at 5:30 in the morning and
had to work at 7:00. No problem. Crawled into class at 7:00 with no
sleep and stinkin' of booze and smokes. I could hardly see straight.
I told the students what we had been up to and they actually applauded
my fortitude and sense of duty. Korea is great for boozing.
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Old Gil



Joined: 26 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SanchoPanza wrote:
Cuaba wrote:
Not drinking too much before class. Smile


Haha, depends what you mean. Our head teacher had a birthday a
while back and we went drinkin'. Serious like. The director of the
school paid for everything. We were faced at 5:30 in the morning and
had to work at 7:00. No problem. Crawled into class at 7:00 with no
sleep and stinkin' of booze and smokes. I could hardly see straight.
I told the students what we had been up to and they actually applauded
my fortitude and sense of duty. Korea is great for boozing.


Worst story ever.
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Cuaba



Joined: 10 Jan 2010
Location: New York

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SanchoPanza wrote:

Haha, depends what you mean. Our head teacher had a birthday a
while back and we went drinkin'. Serious like. The director of the
school paid for everything. We were faced at 5:30 in the morning and
had to work at 7:00. No problem. Crawled into class at 7:00 with no
sleep and stinkin' of booze and smokes. I could hardly see straight.
I told the students what we had been up to and they actually applauded
my fortitude and sense of duty. Korea is great for boozing.


Damn, you the man! Closest I come to that is poker games that last
all through the night and almost until noon the next day. I have a few
"commitments" to take care of before my regular job and I am pretty
much obliterated physically and mentally when I do them.

Hey where are you? Maybe you wanna join a game. We's in
Haebangchon.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a few on my list:

1) Cares about their students. Make an effort to connect with the students. Knows the difference between friendly and friends. Teachers are not to be friends with their students, just friendly.
2) Always evaluates their methods and puts time into revising and tweaking to find things that work better. Continuous professional development is a must.
3) Knows the material they are teaching, and plans for it accordingly.
4) Is professional: they don't hit on their students or colleagues or say inappropriate things. They come to work dressed appropriately with whatever the dress code is for that job. They come to work sober and ready to work.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is cribbing somewhat from a previous thread on the same subject, but that's okay. I like Steelrail's list.

My own criteria for good teachers:
1. Has a thorough education in the subject. There are those rare people who can do this without degrees. But not many.
2. Is prepared for class. Some people can 'wing it.' I can't.
3. Likes people. I've had some awful professors who were intelligent but who obviously didn't respect the students, and that attitude is poisonous.
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Nemo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just ask Steve Scherzer.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One key idea not mentioned so far is that a good teacher is able to 'think like a student' when preparing and presenting lessons. By that, I mean he/she has to predict what the students need and supply it. This is partly done by remembering what questions the students asked the first time a lesson was presented and modifying the presentation the next time around so that question is answered before a student needs to ask it.
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Mr. Pink



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
One key idea not mentioned so far is that a good teacher is able to 'think like a student' when preparing and presenting lessons. By that, I mean he/she has to predict what the students need and supply it. This is partly done by remembering what questions the students asked the first time a lesson was presented and modifying the presentation the next time around so that question is answered before a student needs to ask it.


In my 2nd point was: revising material. Going with the same lesson plan all the time and not reflecting on what could have been better is just setting up both the teacher and the student for a second run at a lesson that could have gone better.
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