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Does beer=liquor?

 
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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Does beer=liquor? Reply with quote

Is beer considered a liquor? To me they have always been two separate things, but then someone told me different parts of the world consider them to be the same.
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends where you go, but I think the word "liquor" means high alcohol beverage.

Some parts of the U.S. call any beer 5% alc or more "malt liquor".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malt_liquor
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Chris_Dixon



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liquor is an alcoholic beverage made by distillation rather than by fermentation, so beer is not a liquor...

Its usually understood as spirits in my experience
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where i grew up you could only buy beer at a liquor store

and i never heard anyone trying to make the distinction let alone treat liquor and beer as different

but it explains the late '80s "beer and wine" stores that popped up in my hometown
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beercanman



Joined: 16 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Chris is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_beverage

A distilled beverage, liquor, or spirit is a drinkable liquid containing ethanol that is produced by means of distilling fermented grain, fruit, or vegetables.[1] This excludes undistilled fermented beverages such as beer and wine.

The term hard liquor is often used to distinguish distilled beverages from (implicitly weaker) undistilled ones.

Beer and wine are limited to a maximum alcohol content of about 15% ABV (Alcohol by volume), as most yeasts cannot reproduce when the concentration of alcohol is above this level; consequently, fermentation ceases at that point.

etc..
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oskinny1



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is what I thought, but some punk 21 year old and some Boer both said they were the same, so I thought maybe it was a regional thing.

The punk kid said I was a bad teacher for not knowing this. Rolling Eyes
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you don't HAVE TO teach that punk, since
he sounds like he doesn't want to learn, from anyone.
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Alberta they were more separate before privatization, but now I see liquor stores and beer stores both selling everything. When I was in Belgium, liquor stores sold only spirits, and I remember hearing a tourist argue with the shopkeeper that there was no beer!

For many people, I think liquor and booze are words which describe everything, but technically beer is not liquor. "Liquor, then beer, you're in the clear; beer, then liquor, never been sicker."
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris_Dixon wrote:
Liquor is an alcoholic beverage made by distillation rather than by fermentation, so beer is not a liquor...

Its usually understood as spirits in my experience

So this would mean KGB is in fact a liquor?
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So this would mean KGB is in fact a liquor?

Good question. I suppose it is as there's vodka or other spirits in a KGB, even if not much. These drinks fall into a fuzzy category such as "specialty liquors" or something like that, just like Baileys or Kahlua, I guess.
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my home country you can buy beer and wine when you're 18 and hard liquor when you're 20. When KGB (and similar drinks) first came they were classified as hard liquor, but then after 2 years or something they got reclassified to the same category as beer. So I guess we're not the only people who are a little confused. But now it's simply anything 22% or less is 18 years and anything above is 20 years. (Which I think is a very good rule)
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In my home country you can buy beer and wine when you're 18 and hard liquor when you're 20. When KGB (and similar drinks) first came they were classified as hard liquor, but then after 2 years or something they got reclassified to the same category as beer. So I guess we're not the only people who are a little confused. But now it's simply anything 22% or less is 18 years and anything above is 20 years. (Which I think is a very good rule)

I'm thinking of the Chinese dinner I ordered at home the other night. The food arrived with a complimentary bottle of Chinese liquor. It looked like soju but tasted like paint thinner and it was 50%! I could run a car on that. This is something you should have to be at least 45 to drink, or have served in the navy.
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NovaKart



Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq

PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bai jiu, it smells and tastes horrible. Lots of Chinese men love it though.

What country are you from uknows? I thought USA was the only country with an alcohol age limit that was older than 18. I mean besides some Muslims countries where it's totally banned.
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UknowsI



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from northern Europe...

I think the idea to divide it into two age groups for strong and weak alcohol is very good. Young people are not going to get silly wasted drinking beer, and it makes them a bit more experienced to alcohol before they start drinking the hard liquor. They can still get quite drunk on alco-pop, but it's so expensive so it discourage most from drinking a lot of it.
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beercanman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NovaKart wrote:
Bai jiu, it smells and tastes horrible. Lots of Chinese men love it though.


It's real firewater for sure. As far as I can tell, the Chinese/Taiwanese are not much for drinking. The level of public drunkenness seems to come nowhere near Korean heights. A few shots of that baijiu, which is poured into really small shot glasses, can surely take the edge off, especially for one who isn't much of a drinker. It's brutal stuff. They sell lots of cheap nasty stuff in China.
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