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anjinsan
Joined: 26 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:26 am Post subject: |
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Yup, I too have been witness to such chivalrous spectacles here in Korea of men beating up women.
What I can't get over is how the cops are always there (I'm being fecetious now) breaking up such incidents, hauling off the men for assaulting their beloved wives/girlfriends/sisters/nieces, and doing such a bang-up job of keeping the peace and teaching citizens that such domestic violence will not be tolerated on the enlightened shores of
the Great Han People's Country. |
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curiousaboutkorea

Joined: 21 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:27 am Post subject: Re: Domestic violence at Hanaro Mart |
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| Manuel_the_Bandito wrote: |
That's the worst domestic violence you've ever seen? You must have led a rather sheltered life in a rich neighbourhood. |
Wow. Does it make you feel good to talk down to other people? I mean, you've must have really had a tough life living on the gritty streets. You're so much better than anyone who hasn't had to deal up close with domestic violence.
Seriously though, what was the point of you saying that? |
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8 years down
Joined: 16 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:56 am Post subject: |
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I was having a smoke on my balcony at about 1am in October and down below some couple started screaming at each other. It was amusing as usual until he knocked her down with one punch to the head, and then dragged her around by the hair while she cried and screamed. He kept hitting her which I couldn't believe since she was down already.
I wanted to go down so badly but I held back. That stuff absolutely infuriates me (I even freak when my boy students raise a hand to the girls) Instead I just started yelling stuff at him from the window as loud as I could like: "Oh you're tough... beating up a girl nice job...keep hitting her you p***y." It was enough to get his attention and he stopped hitting her. He picked her up and pushed her up the road where I lost sight.
Made me sick that the 2 security guards for my apartment complex were right there, 10 feet away in their little booth peering out the window. I know it happens in every country, but to see it blatantly right there in front of you and in public brings it to a different level. You are witnessing something illegal and you have every right to get involved if you wish. Just don't commit any crime yourself in return. |
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proustme
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Location: Nowon-gu
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: |
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| 8 years down wrote: |
| Made me sick that the 2 security guards for my apartment complex were right there, 10 feet away in their little booth peering out the window. |
Too bad you didn't film it. Post it up on Naver with your foreign name and then let the Korean netizens react. It's sad it'll have to come down to shaming this country's people in order to get them to do the right thing (i.e. prosecute and jail men for physical assaults on women) |
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curiousaboutkorea

Joined: 21 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| proustme wrote: |
| 8 years down wrote: |
| Made me sick that the 2 security guards for my apartment complex were right there, 10 feet away in their little booth peering out the window. |
Too bad you didn't film it. Post it up on Naver with your foreign name and then let the Korean netizens react. It's sad it'll have to come down to shaming this country's people in order to get them to do the right thing (i.e. prosecute and jail men for physical assaults on women) |
I have a funny feeling that the result might be the same as the boxing incident of the 1988 Seoul Olympics.
Instead of the local population getting mad about what happened (i.e. a handful of Koreans acting terribly on the international stage), the foreigner covering it will get blamed. The South KOrean protests at the time were directed towards NBC for covering the story, not the actual perpetrators. |
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proustme
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Location: Nowon-gu
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| What's the back story on the boxing incident? Got a link? |
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curiousaboutkorea

Joined: 21 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| What's the back story on the boxing incident? Got a link? |
Sure. http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2008/11/anger-at-foreign-coverage-of-korea-in.html
Long story short....
1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul.
At a boxing match a referee penalizes a Korean boxer.
Korean crowd causes a ruckus, throwing chairs etc. Korean boxing officials get in the ring and punch the referee.
NBC covers the story and much of the Korean populace gets mad that the incident is being covered (stating NBC is paying too much attention to it). They're also mad that NBC reports on Korea's sweatshops, foreign adoption and human trafficking. This anger fuels more anti-American sentiment because NBC is hurting Korea's image. and so on... |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| I and my roommate intervened in a husband and wife fight we grabbed the man, but it was the wife and mother-in-law who were attacking the man and he was only trying to defend himself and escape. We released the man and he fled. The wife and mother-in-law in hot pursuit. It was stupid to get involved. Others have said it better but the foreigner is always at fault. |
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dirving
Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| Then again, I also carry blood money insurance as a part of my policy, so I'm covered in the event something happens. |
It really is a sad reflection on Korean culture when there's such a thing as blood money insurance. What's the limit on that? |
I will have to look again. It's something like 10 million, 50 million, or 100 million. Honestly don't remember. It comes standard with Samsung All-Life.
Yeah, there are so many people cheating for insurance money (they're called nylon patients here because they sit in the hospital for 2 weeks but go out to eat in their bedclothes with friends and carry an IV drip the whole way) that they have to include this. Ever seen a bus accident (even a minor one)? I've walked past a few in my time, and even saw a minor, minor accident where a boatload of Koreans came rolling out of the thing acting like they had hit a wall at 100kms/hr. It was comical. Two people got out and laid down on the ground while a share of the rest hobbled around complaining of sore backs. The accident was barely a fender-bender. |
A Korean-American adoptee who worked as a recruiter for E&I Education and nark for Seoul Central Prosecutors' Office in 2003 did this when he and I were going to Seoul from Hanam City in May, 2004. He implored me to try to cheat the bus company out of a lot of money by faking a knee injury just as he tried to do. Poor Steve Grommesh got caught by the doctor at a hospital at Seohyun Station in Bundang.
Hmm, I didn't realise that the bus thing was a popular scam. Thanks for the tip. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Too bad you didn't film it. Post it up on Naver with your foreign name and then let the Korean netizens react. It's sad it'll have to come down to shaming this country's people in order to get them to do the right thing (i.e. prosecute and jail men for physical assaults on women) |
Exactly.I think thats the better idea. Shouldn't be too hard to pick up a cheap camcorder for those "special moments". |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| curiousaboutkorea wrote: |
| proustme wrote: |
| 8 years down wrote: |
| Made me sick that the 2 security guards for my apartment complex were right there, 10 feet away in their little booth peering out the window. |
Too bad you didn't film it. Post it up on Naver with your foreign name and then let the Korean netizens react. It's sad it'll have to come down to shaming this country's people in order to get them to do the right thing (i.e. prosecute and jail men for physical assaults on women) |
I have a funny feeling that the result might be the same as the boxing incident of the 1988 Seoul Olympics.
Instead of the local population getting mad about what happened (i.e. a handful of Koreans acting terribly on the international stage), the foreigner covering it will get blamed. The South KOrean protests at the time were directed towards NBC for covering the story, not the actual perpetrators. |
The backlash from the NBC coverage was members of the US Olympic swim team getting arrested for taking a small statue from a hotel, which was done as a prank. It was a student, doing work study at the hotel, from the school I taught at back in '89, who reported them. It was clearly retribution for the TV coverage.
It just happened to be a Korean boxer. If it had been an American boxer who created a scene, NBC would still have broadcast it. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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A Korean-American adoptee who worked as a recruiter for E&I Education and nark for Seoul Central Prosecutors' Office in 2003 did this when he and I were going to Seoul from Hanam City in May, 2004. He implored me to try to cheat the bus company out of a lot of money by faking a knee injury just as he tried to do. Poor Steve Grommesh got caught by the doctor at a hospital at Seohyun Station in Bundang.
Hmm, I didn't realise that the bus thing was a popular scam. Thanks for the tip. |
Hospitals have been accused of encouraging the problem for profit:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/08/123_50128.html
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Hospitals to Be Punished Over 'Nylon Patients'
By Jane Han
Staff Reporter
Not all patients are created equal, as some show they're healthy enough to roam outside the hospital and take extended trips away from their bedside. Dressed in hospital clothes, they're spotted dining at nearby restaurants, shopping for snacks and even getting their hair done at beauty salons.
They're also the ones that cost insurers billons of won every year in false payouts.
Bogus patients, also known here as "nylon patients," who check into hospitals unnecessarily mostly after car accidents, have long been a headache for local insurance companies, even with numerous crackdown attempts in the past.
But the government says it is going to adopt a new method to weed out the fakes..... |
And here is a shocking statistic:
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| The General Insurance Association of Korea said last year that seven in 10 patients injured from car accidents become in-patients, even though 95 percent of them experience minor injuries. |
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VFRinterceptor
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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A Korean contractor tried to blow up my school with a tank of LPG(with the kids inside) because our director owed him money.
Checkmate. |
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Mallard
Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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My first year here, my friends and I were hanging out in my apartment when we heard what was obvious domestic abuse a few doors down. One of my friends, this blond waify American storms down the hall and starts banging and kicking on this guy's door until he opens it. When he does, she just goes apeshit insane. She starts screaming and kicking at his door, and all around just making a gigantic scene. Everyone on that floor started opening their apartment doors to get a view of the commotion. He looked really embarrassed said "sorry" and closed the door. We didn't hear anything from his apartment ever again.
Another time, one of my gyopo friends was being assaulted by her neighbor. He felt she was too noisy in the morning and "wanted to teach her a lesson." He would always yell at her and a few times he put his hands on her. She avoided using the elevator so that she wouldn't have to see him. One day he tried to come into her apartment. She called me right after it happened, and told me he was now at the door trying to break in. I lived 2 floors below so I made my way up and saw him messing with the number pad on her door. I started screaming at him and making a huge scene. The guy tried to shoo me away but I kept on with the hysterics until the entire floor new something was up. Then the guy backed off and never bothered her again.
So I think if you are a foreign women you have a lot of license to call out Korean men in their behavior. It is my policy that I will make the biggest effen scene imaginable whenever I see domestic violence. Oh you just wanted to beat your wife in peace, well tough shit now you have to deal with a hysterical foreigner and all the attention she's attracted too. |
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Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Mallard wrote: |
My first year here, my friends and I were hanging out in my apartment when we heard what was obvious domestic abuse a few doors down. One of my friends, this blond waify American storms down the hall and starts banging and kicking on this guy's door until he opens it. When he does, she just goes apeshit insane. She starts screaming and kicking at his door, and all around just making a gigantic scene. Everyone on that floor started opening their apartment doors to get a view of the commotion. He looked really embarrassed said "sorry" and closed the door. We didn't hear anything from his apartment ever again.
Another time, one of my gyopo friends was being assaulted by her neighbor. He felt she was too noisy in the morning and "wanted to teach her a lesson." He would always yell at her and a few times he put his hands on her. She avoided using the elevator so that she wouldn't have to see him. One day he tried to come into her apartment. She called me right after it happened, and told me he was now at the door trying to break in. I lived 2 floors below so I made my way up and saw him messing with the number pad on her door. I started screaming at him and making a huge scene. The guy tried to shoo me away but I kept on with the hysterics until the entire floor new something was up. Then the guy backed off and never bothered her again.
So I think if you are a foreign women you have a lot of license to call out Korean men in their behavior. It is my policy that I will make the biggest effen scene imaginable whenever I see domestic violence. Oh you just wanted to beat your wife in peace, well tough shit now you have to deal with a hysterical foreigner and all the attention she's attracted too. |
Wow. That's actually a really great idea. I didn't even think about making a huge commotion. |
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