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U.S. War Vetern Goes to Jail for Making Violent Rap Song
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.38 Special



Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

soakitincider,

There is no freedom of speech in the Military. There is permissible speech. Just like there is permissible speech in the workplace. In the office you can't say "good morning, c***" to every woman you pass by; neither in the Military can you threaten the lives of your superiors because you're throwing a temper tantrum. This fellow is in big, big trouble if he does not apologize, rescind what he said, and more than likely accept a dishonorable discharge.

ChopChaeJoe,

Unless this is an intentional attempt to make yourself sound as ignorant as possible, you're an idiot. If it is, I apologize -- you had me fooled sure enough.
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mc_jc



Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Location: C4B- Cp Red Cloud, Area-I

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is an all-volunteer military. Also, although a person signs on for 2,3,4 or even 6 years, they are either at the whim of the army for a total of 8 years or, under drastic circumstances, until the end of hostilities plus 6 months (the last time that was done was in WWII). But from the people I have talked to onbase, most officers and NCO's who are E6 and above could be kept in for the duration of the conflicts since they're not bound by contract and have to resign to get out. However, for these soldiers to get out, a Colonel (Brigade-level commander) must sign off on it. These days, thats difficult since the Army needs people and are doing everything they could to keep people in.

That's why the suicide rate in the army (especially within USFK) is exceptionally high compared to other components of the armed forces.

Now this soldier, although he assumes he is protected under the precepts of free speech, clearly violated many aspects of the UCMJ by threatening not only other soldiers but also defense officials.
And yes, because of the incident at Fort Hood a while ago, the DoD is taking this VERY seriously.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.38 Special wrote:
accept a dishonorable discharge.


Dishonorable Discharge can only be issued as part of a sentence of a court-martial. There's no question of acceptance.
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SeoulMan99



Joined: 02 Aug 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

soakitincider wrote:
freedom of speech, as long as you say the right thing................


I know from experience that the military is not a democracy. They can't afford to allow insubordination.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He should be jailed for calling that "rap"
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