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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: Korean cats? |
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Does Korea have any exotic looking cats? Id like to buy a kitten when i get there next week. |
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Buffalo
Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Location: Ilsan
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Go to any dirty traditional market (not Dondaemun or Namdaemun) and you will find a box jammed full of flea carrying, starved kittens. Buy one for about 5,000 and take it directly to a vet. They will check it for ear-mites, give it shots (if its old enough), give it some anti-flea liquid and check its poo. This should cost you no more than 40,000 or so. You will feel good that you saved a poor animal from a life of violence, famine, and a poor environment.
My girlfriend and I have done this and so has a few of our friends. It also makes for a great story about how you saved the day for the little critter! |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:21 am Post subject: |
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We have a Korean street cat that my girlfriend rescued as a kitten and she is by far and away the most wonderful cat in the world. There is no excuse for buying a pet shop animal. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:22 am Post subject: |
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Regular Korean cats pretty much resemble common housecats anywhere (my two are calico).
Exotic breeds (not indigenous) are available at petshops with fancy pricetags & possibly questionable breeding backgrounds. |
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Taya
Joined: 09 Jan 2009 Location: Changwon
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Also be sure you know everything about how to take the cat back home with you. Depending on your country, there may be quarantine laws and such. Keep in mind that it may be expensive to travel home with your cat. If this is going to be a problem, better not get a cat while you're here. |
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Hindsight
Joined: 02 Feb 2009
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:29 am Post subject: |
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There's an old saying: the cat will find you. If you like cats, sooner or later you will run into a cat or kitten who needs your help. You do not need to buy one.
But I saw a store with kittens that had fancy breeds at very reasonable prices. This is not something to sneer at. It is a good thing for Korea because these are domesticated cats, Siamese, Persians, Somalis, Russian Blues, etc. Koreans are generally afraid of cats, so these are good, safe kittens for them to learn with.
Some Korean cats bite instinctively, though usually the bite is more like a chew.
If the store or seller does not know how to raise kittens, they are not going to be healthy. Eye problems seem to be common, and easily solved with some antibiotic eye ointment. Part of the problem is they think that they can raise cats on dog food, which lacks taurine. Without taurine you get eye and heart problems.
If you think you will have a cat in Korea, order some amoxicillin for fish online, a bottle or two, and bring it with you. Amoxicilllin is the standard antibiotic for cats; just adjust for weight -- cats tolerate large doses.
http://www.amazon.com/Fish-Mox-Amoxicillin-250-Caps/dp/B0002YF9UA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1262085757&sr=8-1
Believe it or not, Korean vets cannot prescribe medicine from a pharmacy and do not have oral antibiotics. If your cat needs antibiotics, they will expect you to bring it in once a day for a shot at 10,000 won a shot.
I tried to get some amoxicillin from a pharmacy here and they tried to sell me some expensive bee stuff, royal jelly, as an antibiotic!
It wouldn't hurt to go to your local vet an buy some Revolution and bring it with you to treat fleas, worms and skin mites.
As to Taya's comment, there are also cats available from other Dave's posters, typically already with shots, spayed, etc. This is also a very good route.
What you need to do is get a chip and a rabies shot shortly after you get your cat and you should not have too many problems taking the cat with you.
Korean feral cats can be very intelligent and beautiful. The Japanese brought there cats with them. This may be one reason Koreans HATE cats. But ask a Korean why they hate cats, and they won't be able to give you a clear answer, so it really boils down to that they hate cats because other Koreans hate cats, and they hate cats because other Koreans hate cats, and .......... Yet Korea has some of the finest indigenous cats in the world, and they don't realize it. |
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ytuque

Joined: 29 Jan 2008 Location: I drink therefore I am!
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Korean cats? |
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Radius wrote: |
Does Korea have any exotic looking cats? Id like to buy a kitten when i get there next week. |
I have been to a number of pet stores in Korea, and I saw the usual purebreds you find in pet stores, persians, siamese, burmese, etc. There were also the usual tiger/tabby/mixed breeds.
There was one really exotic cat which the shop owners claim is an American breed for 800k won. It is a really exotic looking tiger cat with broad dark stripes and bright green eyes. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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They have Scottish Fold's here. Can be anywhere from 500,000w - 1 million depending on the color, if the ears are straight/folded, etc...
Scottish Folds are awesome. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Don't buy, adopt. |
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The Bobster

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Bramble wrote: |
Don't buy, adopt. |
We've recently moved to a large apartment, and we've been thinking seriously about getting a companion feline to share the space with us. I want to thank you for this link. Back in America, I always recommended and used shelters or pounds to bring such friends into my life. I've never been comfortable with the contradictory demands of commerce that (I believe) nearly always occurs when animals are sold to people who intend to love them.
Yes, cruelty and pain exist in the world, but I don't agree with an exploitative system that seeks to profit from it. I don't think it's good for human beings to be part of such a system. And I've always liked the idea that the love I give a creature could actually save that creature's life.
I've been thinking a better way is to keep an eye out on the Buy/Sell Trade Forum here to see what is available. I'm a long-term resident with no plans to leave Korea, but there are some expatriates who know they will only be in Korea and neverhteless take on an animal to live together with for that short time. I think that's sort of irresponsible, because the people know full well a day will come when they will leave and not be able to take care of the creature thay were protecting. That's not love, it's convenience.
Ethically speaking, is an animal shelter that requires an adoption fee very much different from a pet store? There is a transaction of currency, you see. Just asking, in case others care about such things. |
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air76
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Taya wrote: |
Also be sure you know everything about how to take the cat back home with you. Depending on your country, there may be quarantine laws and such. Keep in mind that it may be expensive to travel home with your cat. If this is going to be a problem, better not get a cat while you're here. |
If you're from the US or Canada it is very easy to take your cat home with you, and it isn't expensive. It's maybe $200 plus a trip to the vet.
If you're from New Zealand, it's more or less impossible to take your pet home...at the very least it is a nightmare.
I am pretty sure it's similarly difficult to take an animal back to the UK, probably the same for Ireland.
I am not sure about Australia or South Africa.
Our cat is from Korea, then moved to the US to live with my mother for a year, then she traveled by herself down to Chile to live with us again, and since then we've brought her back to Korea with us. All 3 trips were relatively cheap and painless...as long as you're not traveling between island nations you're fine. That being said, most island nations tend to make it nearly impossible to bring an animal in, so if you are planning to move on from Korea to Japan or Taiwan or something then it would be best to wait to adopt. |
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Forever

Joined: 12 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Buffalo wrote: |
Go to any dirty traditional market (not Dondaemun or Namdaemun) and you will find a box jammed full of flea carrying, starved kittens. Buy one for about 5,000 and take it directly to a vet. They will check it for ear-mites, give it shots (if its old enough), give it some anti-flea liquid and check its poo. This should cost you no more than 40,000 or so |
Don't do this!
I got 2 tiny kittens from Moran market (where they sell dog, cat, goat and duck meat).
Took them both to the vet and it cost me 80,000won EACH to have them vaccinated and the vet said I had to bring them back many more times over the next few months for many more shots.
Both kittens (I found out) had scabies and the cost of getting them vaccinated again and again and having the scabies treated and the
when I found out they were both male, the neutering costs - just NOT worth it.
Go to the Itaewon kitten adoption place and adopt one which is already neutered and fully vaccinated. It will be much, much cheaper. |
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Bramble

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: National treasures need homes
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: |
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1. ARK doesn't have a shelter, but the ARK volunteers help shelters. Some of the animals listed at the site live at shelters, many others are in foster care, and some are being boarded at vet clinics. ARK also has a page with links to other rescue organizations such as Nabiya, KARA and KAPS.
2. There's a mandatory adoption fee for animals adopted through ARK, and I think its purpose is to deter people who aren't serious about taking care of the animal for life. If people are worried about the adoption fee, what will they do if the animal gets sick and needs an expensive operation or if they decide to leave the country (with all the expenses involved in moving an animal overseas)? Some shelters don't charge a fee, and this seems like a dangerous policy to have because an "adopter" could falsify the application and turn around and sell the animal for profit. On the other hand, some shelters are desperate to adopt animals out and may feel any chance is worth it.
3. ARK, Nabiya and other rescue groups screen applicants to make sure they're making a lifetime commitment and not just "adopting" for a year or two. If something unexpected does happen and the adoption doesn't work out, the rescue group will take the animal back.
4. If you buy a kitten from a market, you've helped that individual kitten but you've also rewarded the seller for doing the wrong thing. Buying creates a demand for more breeding, which condemns a mother cat to a horrible life and creates more homeless/neglected kittens.
5. The difference between a shelter and a pet store is its purpose. A shelter rescues animals, spends money to have them spayed and neutered and to treat any health problems they may have, and then places them in good homes. A pet store pays someone to breed animals and sells them at a marked up price to make a profit. Pet stores provide vet care only to the extent that it's cost effective, don't have animals spayed or neutered, don't screen purchasers to make sure they're serious/committed/know how to take care of an animal, and as far as I know they usually won't take the animal back if there's a problem. Buying from a pet store supports breeding and the exploitation of mother animals. Adopting from a rescue group supports rescue.
6. The adoption fee doesn't reflect the full cost of an animal's care--last year a friend of mine rescued a cat and had her treated for some minor health problems, then I took her to Seoul to be spayed before transferring her to a foster home. She was fairly healthy when I got her, but she needed blood tests before the operation to be sure she was fit for surgery. Then she had to be hospitalized afterwards because she was too stressed to eat (which meant she couldn't take oral antibiotics to prevent infection). The vet also recommended antibody tests, tests for fatal diseases such as feline AIDS, and a lot of shots. I must have spent close to 300,000 won altogether, and the adoption fee will be nowhere near that amount (and won't go to me in any case). ARK is a volunteer-run organization, but shelters do have to hire staff and I don't have a problem with them using adoption fees to recover part of those expenses. |
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CutebutPsycho
Joined: 03 Jul 2008 Location: BFE
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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air76 wrote: |
[That being said, most island nations tend to make it nearly impossible to bring an animal in, so if you are planning to move on from Korea to Japan or Taiwan or something then it would be best to wait to adopt. |
Japan isn't nearly as difficult as you'd think. The cat needs an ISO compatible microchip (or you will need to bring a scanner), two rabies shots given 30 days apart and a FAVN (rabies antibody test). Korea doesn't have any labs that are internationally accepted, so it generally has to be sent to Kansas State U's lab (or the DOD lab in Texas, if you are military). There is a 180 day wait and import paperwork as well as copies of the FAVN must be sent to the Japanese point of arrival at least 40 days in advance. The normal health certificate issued no more than 10 days old. Follow those rules and the animal will be released to you in less than 12 hours. |
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curiousaboutkorea

Joined: 21 Jan 2009
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Buffalo wrote: |
Go to any dirty traditional market (not Dondaemun or Namdaemun) and you will find a box jammed full of flea carrying, starved kittens. Buy one for about 5,000 and take it directly to a vet. They will check it for ear-mites, give it shots (if its old enough), give it some anti-flea liquid and check its poo. This should cost you no more than 40,000 or so. You will feel good that you saved a poor animal from a life of violence, famine, and a poor environment.
My girlfriend and I have done this and so has a few of our friends. It also makes for a great story about how you saved the day for the little critter! |
Doesn't this just encourage the practice of cramming them into dirty cages and support said industry? |
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