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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
C'mon...Killing girl babies continuously for decades is not normal. Korea has a problem. If it didn't then we wouldn't see Koreans buying up Vietnamese brides in the thousands.
Gender Imbalance 'to Reach Crisis Point in 2014'
The number of men in the ideal marrying age group stands at 1.98 million this year, some 70,000 more than women (1.91 million), but that gap will widen to 134,200 next year and reach a record 381,300 in 2014, the institute forecast.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/19/2009121900226.html |
1.98/1.91 = 1.04
Still within the normal range, but on the lower end of it.
And the reason some Korean men are getting Vietnamese brides has little do do with gender imbalance and more to do with class difference and rural/urban divide. |
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UknowsI

Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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In Korea you kind of have to.
99% of the women here are already attached. How could they not be, when you have such a massive gender imbalance in this country? Women get boyfriends with the same ease that they switch on a light- they simply have to give the nod to one of the googly-eyed males swamping her for attention. If you wait for someone who's single you could be waiting a long time. |
I have also noticed this trend that some girls I know seem to have a "boyfriend of convenience". Not really the love of their life, but who would say no to free dinners, a driver, nice gifts and someone to boss around? (I'm not saying all girls are like that, and there are probably girls like that in the west too.) But the stronger this trend is, the harder it becomes to only hit on single girls. |
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Satchel Paige
Joined: 29 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:09 am Post subject: Re: would you pursue and girl knowing she had a boyfriend? |
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| Would it be worth your time? Do k-girls often cheat? |
Considering you are brand new to Korea and half your posts imply a fixation on scoring local poon ASAP, here's hoping you find success in your endeavors.
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 5:44 am Post subject: |
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| Why thank you kind Sir, I shall double my efforts! |
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MollyBloom

Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: James Joyce's pants
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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I have also noticed this trend that some girls I know seem to have a "boyfriend of convenience". Not really the love of their life, but who would say no to free dinners, a driver, nice gifts and someone to boss around? |
Kind of like Eun Chan's sister in Coffee Prince... |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
C'mon...Killing girl babies continuously for decades is not normal. Korea has a problem. If it didn't then we wouldn't see Koreans buying up Vietnamese brides in the thousands.
Gender Imbalance 'to Reach Crisis Point in 2014'
The number of men in the ideal marrying age group stands at 1.98 million this year, some 70,000 more than women (1.91 million), but that gap will widen to 134,200 next year and reach a record 381,300 in 2014, the institute forecast.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/19/2009121900226.html |
1.98/1.91 = 1.04
Still within the normal range, but on the lower end of it.
And the reason some Korean men are getting Vietnamese brides has little do do with gender imbalance and more to do with class difference and rural/urban divide. |
Did you even read the article Julius linked? |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
C'mon...Killing girl babies continuously for decades is not normal. Korea has a problem. If it didn't then we wouldn't see Koreans buying up Vietnamese brides in the thousands.
Gender Imbalance 'to Reach Crisis Point in 2014'
The number of men in the ideal marrying age group stands at 1.98 million this year, some 70,000 more than women (1.91 million), but that gap will widen to 134,200 next year and reach a record 381,300 in 2014, the institute forecast.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/19/2009121900226.html |
1.98/1.91 = 1.04
Still within the normal range, but on the lower end of it.
And the reason some Korean men are getting Vietnamese brides has little do do with gender imbalance and more to do with class difference and rural/urban divide. |
Did you even read the article Julius linked? |
Sure did, doesn't change the fact the numbers still are in normal range.
With the number of divorces, remarriage and slow acceptance of single parents these days, really nothing to worry about. if the ratio was over 110 then it would be a little concerning. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| flakfizer wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
C'mon...Killing girl babies continuously for decades is not normal. Korea has a problem. If it didn't then we wouldn't see Koreans buying up Vietnamese brides in the thousands.
Gender Imbalance 'to Reach Crisis Point in 2014'
The number of men in the ideal marrying age group stands at 1.98 million this year, some 70,000 more than women (1.91 million), but that gap will widen to 134,200 next year and reach a record 381,300 in 2014, the institute forecast.
http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2009/12/19/2009121900226.html |
1.98/1.91 = 1.04
Still within the normal range, but on the lower end of it.
And the reason some Korean men are getting Vietnamese brides has little do do with gender imbalance and more to do with class difference and rural/urban divide. |
Did you even read the article Julius linked? |
Sure did, doesn't change the fact the numbers still are in normal range.
With the number of divorces, remarriage and slow acceptance of single parents these days, really nothing to worry about. if the ratio was over 110 then it would be a little concerning. |
Uh huh, and did you notice that the gap will increase from 70,000 this year to an estimated 381,300 in 2014? So, for example, if the ideal marrying age men number were to stay steady at 1.98 million, that would put the women's number at around 1.6 million. What sort of ratio would that make? Maybe that's why the article started with the line:
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| One in every five men is likely to have trouble finding a spouse by 2014, a study suggests, when the ratio of men to women at the ideal marriage age will reach a record high. |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:16 am Post subject: Re: would you pursue and girl knowing she had a boyfriend? |
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| Radius wrote: |
| Do k-girls often cheat? |
....I think you better PM Abigolblackman for an answer on that  |
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T-dot

Joined: 16 May 2004 Location: bundang
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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why not?
They could just say no if they aren't interested and if they are....
BTW, I believe you shouldn't limit yourself to just Korean girls. I'm sure girls from other cultures cheat as well. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:02 am Post subject: |
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| Sure, why not. Nothing wrong with a little cheating. That is what makes it so cool. |
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UknowsI

Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:53 am Post subject: |
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| Just for your information, it's possible to pursue a girl with a bf without making her cheat. If a girl has a boyfriend of convenience she is in my eyes almost single and will probably cut him off if she meets someone she actually likes. But she should leave him before anything serious happens. |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: |
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Uh huh, and did you notice that the gap will increase from 70,000 this year to an estimated 381,300 in 2014? So, for example, if the ideal marrying age men number were to stay steady at 1.98 million, that would put the women's number at around 1.6 million. What sort of ratio would that make? Maybe that's why the article started with the line:
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| One in every five men is likely to have trouble finding a spouse by 2014, a study suggests, when the ratio of men to women at the ideal marriage age will reach a record high. |
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The only total number they give was the 1.98 and 1.91.
You can't assume that that the 1.98 number for men will stay the same when the women will go down by that number. Maybe the number of men will go up, or down.
Right now the numbers is a 70,000 gap for that 29-33 and 26-30 age group. In the future they predict the gap will go up to 380,000. Okay, so there will be a gap, but you can't make a ratio out of that one number. And so what if there is 300,000 more men 29-33 than woman 26-30?
So a 25 year old woman marrying a 34 year old man isn't proper? Or a 25 year old man marrying a 26 year old woman? How many woman are in that 20-25 age range, and how many men are under 29?
I'm just basing the ratio on the total numbers given. IMO marriage imbalance won't be a problem.
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UknowsI

Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| The article is only about men and women in ideal age for marriage. Also the numbers are not guesswork, since the men and women who will be in ideal age for marriage in 2014 are already born. Unless you suggest that the total number of people in ideal age for marriage will suddenly quadruple, I don't see how this can not be a problem (And with the birthrate in Korea this is not very realistic) |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Your choice OP but I agree with the people who asked you how you would feel if your gf or wife cheated on you.
You may not know the girls bf but you could be an adult about it and move on to a woman who is single....that is a choice, you just seem to prefer following your impulses.
Such is life. |
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