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The Sunday Times January 17, 2010

World misled over Himalayan glacier meltdown
(Simon Fraser/Science Photo Library)
The west Himalayan range includes 15,000 glaciers


Jonathan Leake and Chris Hastings 36 Comments

Recommend? (7) A WARNING that climate change will melt most of the Himalayan glaciers by 2035 is likely to be retracted after a series of scientific blunders by the United Nations body that issued it.

Two years ago the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a benchmark report that was claimed to incorporate the latest and most detailed research into the impact of global warming. A central claim was the world's glaciers were melting so fast that those in the Himalayas could vanish by 2035.

In the past few days the scientists behind the warning have admitted that it was based on a news story in the New Scientist, a popular science journal, published eight years before the IPCC's 2007 report.

It has also emerged that the New Scientist report was itself based on a short telephone interview with Syed Hasnain, a little-known Indian scientist then based at Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi.


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Hasnain has since admitted that the claim was "speculation" and was not supported by any formal research. If confirmed it would be one of the most serious failures yet seen in climate research. The IPCC was set up precisely to ensure that world leaders had the best possible scientific advice on climate change.

[url=]GETITRIGHTFOLKS[/url]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece

[Axiom]

Well blow me down.

Where's Junior. Big oil must have taken control of the IPCC

[Junior]

Misleading. Sure, the 1999 New scientist article (and subsequent IPCC report) which guessed that Himalayan glaciers coulr disappear by 2035 may have been wrong.

That does not mean Himalayan glaciers aren't retreating.It just means that they are retreating at a slower rate than predicted.

The fact is...nobody really knows as a full study and inventory of the thousands of himalayan glaciers by the Chinese has not yet been completed.

There are varying reports from the region. Some say there has not been dramatic change, many say that there has.
"Appa Sherpa, who has climbed Everest a record number of times said recently that he had seen fresh water at the height of above 8,000m on Everest.

�I was shocked to see fresh water at that altitude, where I had seen nothing but snow and ice before,� he said on his return last month from his 19th climb to the highest peak.

There are around 3,300 glaciers in the Nepalese Himalayas and nearly 2,300 of them contain glacial lakes. No one knows which of these are reaching breaching point.

But, these new field studies, starting with Imja, Thulagi and Tsho Rolpa glacial lakes, should begin to answer these important questions. (ANI)

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/health/himalayan-glaciers-feared-to-be-swelling-dangerously-due-to-global-warming_100208785.html
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In short...the evidence is unclear and official studies have not yet released results.

In any case, the Himalayas are not the world. Its a localised region with unique weather patterns.
Elsewhere, the glaciers are dissapearing.
If you doubt this ...look at the pictures or simply do some basic research.
http://www.globalextinction.org/GlacierRetreat.jpg

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