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NovaKart
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| Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer, said many members of his group who currently serve in the military have complained about the markings on the sights. He also claims they've told him that commanders have referred to weapons with the sights as "spiritually transformed firearm[s] of Jesus Christ |
I just read the whole article and this is hilarious. Why don't they get a priest to bless the weapons too. Their idea of Jesus Christ is seriously warped. Why don't they start wearing hair shirts and carrying relics of dead saints? Yeah, I know most of these people are probably Protestant Christians but this whole spiritual warfare thing sounds like medieval Christianity. |
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Ivor
Joined: 24 Oct 2008
Location: Wherever you are!! Really! (in Daejeon)
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pkang0202
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| You guys are reading too much into it. Its like easter eggs in software. so what? Windows is LOADED with secret messages, gags, and inappropriate things in its source code. Are you gonna raise hell just because its in there? |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| You guys are reading too much into it. Its like easter eggs in software. so what? Windows is LOADED with secret messages, gags, and inappropriate things in its source code. Are you gonna raise hell just because its in there? |
No wonder I always feel inclined to surf porn sites! |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| You guys are reading too much into it. Its like easter eggs in software. so what? Windows is LOADED with secret messages, gags, and inappropriate things in its source code. Are you gonna raise hell just because its in there? |
No, but if Windows were trying to crack into an exceptionally hostile market, in which many of their potential customers were convinced that Microsoft is hellbent on destroying the Muslim religion, bible quotes might not be the best "Easter eggs" to be putting in there.
Apart from that, I'll just re-post what YaTa Boy wrote, since I think that sums it up best...
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Now that the Bible references have hit the evening news, I'm sure OBL is doing back flips of joy since he can back up his claims that the US is waging holy war against Moslems.
Isn't the real question here: How much should we care about helping OBL recruit more suicide bombers? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds a little similar to the sepoys and the Enfield's allegedly cow- and pig-fat cartridges in India 1857... |
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Fox
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
| You guys are reading too much into it. Its like easter eggs in software. so what? Windows is LOADED with secret messages, gags, and inappropriate things in its source code. Are you gonna raise hell just because its in there? |
No one in this thread has raised any Hell. |
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geldedgoat
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I don't think we need to go there, especially since I don't think it's part of some governmental plan. Rather, I think this is just a bad idea from every possible perspective.
1) It's at least somewhat disrespectful to any non-Christian soldier who is being issued these weapons.
2) It is at least somewhat hypocritical given material from other religions would never be accepted in this way.
3) It's just one more thing associating Christianity with the actions of our military.
I see reasons to keep this nonsense off of our military's weapons, and no reason for it to be there. |
This. If the verses in question are that important to the soldiers, they can memorize them. Or write them on small slips of paper. Or bring one of those tiny, pocket-sized Gideon's Bibles. But government money should never go towards anything specifically religious (or anti-religious). Proselytizing is for the streets, not gun-sights or money. |
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mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| But government money should never go towards anything specifically religious (or anti-religious). Proselytizing is for the streets, not gun-sights or money. |
What about the Bibles that many military chaplains use? Or chapels on military bases and large warships? or military chaplains themselves? Or the "one nation, under God" phrase in the pledge of allegiance? Or the fundamental human rights which the declaration of independence say come from God via nature? I could go on but i'd have to use Google and I think this is enough.
There's a separation of church and state in the US, but not a separation of the idea of a God and state. Its more of a separation between organized religion and government. The idea of God is all over the place in US government. |
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Jandar
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| These sights also come with a christian cross imprinted in the sights, right? |
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