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Are you a Weirdo Magnet?
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:53 am    Post subject: Are you a Weirdo Magnet? Reply with quote

I lived in Korea for a long time but left in 2004 for greener pastures. Since leaving I've been back for two week visits every winter for inlaw/grandparent visits for my kids. I'm on one of those visits now. On the whole I like Korea, but on these visits reality intrudes on nostalgia and things come rushing back to me that grated on my nerves when I lived here.

On this month's visit, it's this - I'm a Weirdo Magnet.

Every single day since I arrived on January 8th, I've had at least one disturbed Korean chase, yell at or grab on to me at some point in my journey. I wear earphones and do whatever I need to do to send "leave me alone" vibes without being overtly hostile, but it's no use. These are not the "I want to practice my English" types, nor are they attempts at friendliness- I'm talking about people with special needs that aren't being met, and they're hostile. And they seem to make a bee-line toward me. There are literally thousands of people around me. Why me? They're hard to handle with grace.

I note there's one other thread that addresses this, but with nearly 2 million posts on this site since 2003, if this was a common phenomenon there'd be more talk about it.

I've lived in several SE Asian and Middle Eastern countries this decade, and I have never experienced anything like this elsewhere.

Is it just me, or is this a shared experience among foreign residents in Korea?
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mr. positive



Joined: 02 Jan 2008
Location: a happy place

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never happens to me, for what it's worth.

Where are you located? I would think it would happen less in Seoul, more so outside the big city.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than durnks...no....occasionally the weird foreigner though.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr. positive wrote:
Never happens to me, for what it's worth.

Where are you located? I would think it would happen less in Seoul, more so outside the big city.


Seoul. It always happens in high-density population areas- subways, train stations, etc. That density has fit in to my processing what's going on- with 5,000 people directly around me, a small percentage of them is bound to be unbalanced, and as a visibly "different" person in a homogeneous society I shouldn't be surprised to attract their attention.
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hajima 99



Joined: 13 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I have not once been grabbed, chased, nor yelled at (to my knowledge) in over three years. Something like this has happened to you every day since you've returned for a visit (so about 14 incidents already)??

When you say these are people with "special needs," I'm assuming you're using the politically correct term to describe individuals with a psychological disorder. Perhaps it's your physical appearance? Maybe you look particularly friendly or approachable (despite all your attempts to portray the exact opposite)?

I've got nothing... Does your wife have any theories? Do you look like Santa Claus? Obama? Colonel Sanders??
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lemon, I remember when you wrote that sticky for buying stuff at Yongsan. I see now u have updated it. But if you creep down to the replies there are some gems.

A co-worker bought a 128mb key-chain style player for 150,000

I just bought a 15" one two months ago for about 350,000w

64 megs of RAM and a 4 gig hard drive
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hajima 99 wrote:
Interesting. I have not once been grabbed, chased, or yelled at (to my knowledge) in over three years. Something like this has happened to you every day since you've returned for a visit (so about 14 incidents already)??

Yes.

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When you say these are people with "special needs," I'm assuming you're using the politically correct term to describe individuals with a mental or psychological disorder.

Also yes.

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[Perhaps it's your physical appearance? Maybe you look particularly friendly or approachable (despite all your attempts to portray the exact opposite)?

This is possible, though it surprises me. I also had these experiences when I lived here, but not to this frequency, but then, I was working for those five years and didn't have this kind of free time to scoot around town, day after day.

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I've got nothing... Does your wife have any theories? Do you look like Santa Claus? Obama? Colonel Sanders??

My wife got to see it today. We were in the basement floor of Suwon Station headed for the subway and - like clockwork - an old guy came through the crowd yelling things at me, arms waving and ranting in half-English gibberish. We walk at a fast clip and after a moment he got distracted with something else.

She thought it was odd but by now I'm used to it.

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A co-worker bought a 128mb key-chain style player for 150,000

I just bought a 15" one two months ago for about 350,000w

64 megs of RAM and a 4 gig hard drive

2003 doesn't seem that long ago eh? Obviously in technology it's an eternity, which is why I've updated that Yongsan article - statements and advice made in 2003 are embarrassingly wrong in 2010.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're one of them.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That thought occurred to me. Perhaps they were trying to invite me to their meetings.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've really only had one (repeated) experience with this. In this case it was a woman who was obviously mentally handicapped. She lived on my floor in my building, so I'd often see her in the elevator, hallway or in the neighborhood. I think she lived alone, but would obviously need someone that checks in on her and help her out. She spoke English surprisingly well (far better than 95% of Koreans I've met). She befriended me, and I was nice to her. However, she would always push me into awkward situations and try to find out my apartment number so she could come visit me whenever she liked. I always avoided giving it to her and I think the people in the office were wise to it. She claimed she asked them for my apt number and they told her a different number (when they well know where I live).

I haven't seen her in a few months.
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aishiii



Joined: 24 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it makes you feel any better, I'm a babe magnet.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back! Man, that sounds rough! There are lots of dingalings roaming the subways these days. I get approached quite often. It must be that word on my forehead. Wink I'va had a couple friends and some counseling clients that have been attacked and weird crap happening to them over the last few months. Makes me wonder: what's been airing on Korean TV?!
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's not just you, i and others i know have attracted some legitimately disturbed people by just being foreign-looking. one time in particular was really scary, i thought the guy was going to hit me (i was cornered). my only advice for you is to change subway cars, cross the street, or leave quickly if you come across someone like this (the headphones are a good start, but won't always deter those that are very unstable).

on a tangent, i always attract foreign weirdos in clubs... i'm guessing it's just the high proportion of them to normal foreigners here in korea...
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lemon if it is any confort to you...I was ona visit to Busan this past fall (visiting the in-laws with our two kids).

Stayed for nearly 5 weeks.

Had some encounters with the weirdos onm the subway and once in the large underground shopping mall in Somyeon.

My theory is that since we stand out and in my case I was with my two mixed kids for most of the encounters...the weirdos just get keyed in. The thing to watch for is what they do AFTER you get rid of them...in my case, they went on to bother the next and closest Korean so they seem to be equal opportunity offenders!
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harpeau wrote:
Welcome back!

Thanks!
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There are lots of dingalings roaming the subways these days.

Hey now. What did I ever do to you?
Smile

nomad-ish wrote:
It's not just you, i and others i know have attracted some legitimately disturbed people by just being foreign-looking.


PatrickGHBusan wrote:
Lemon if it is any confort to you


Actually, yeah, it is comfort - thanks to you both.
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